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S Jaquan Brisker with the steelers

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Mar 12, 2026 at 7:11 PM.

  1. MojoUW

    MojoUW Well-Known Member

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    Ramsey is fine. Not good. Not bad. Fine.

    Stinks that the $19 million was getting paid on the cap no matter what. I was incorrect when I posted that months ago. Multiple cap tracking websites had it listed incorrectly. Or my old man brain mucked up what I was looking at.

    For what the Steelers were on the hook for....they might as well keep Ramsey around and see what he does with a full off-season in a new system.
     
  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The opener was a clear example of the offense carrying the Steelers and winning despite the defense. They gave up 394 yards and 32 points to the Jets, getting only one sack and forcing one turnover. Rodgers bailed them out with four touchdown passes.

    You also need to look at the games they lost. The defense cost them the first game against the Bengals. it cost them the game against the Bears. The offense scored 31 points in the former and 28 in the latter.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Ok I will give you the 1st, and only game they did.
    We won ten games, I asked a simple question. Name Me one game the D wasn't the main reason we won. You gave me one, and I will agree with it, but that's all. You complain about us losing, but if the offense only actually was the main reason for us winning one game out of 10, you can't then say that the D was the main reason we lost the games we lost.
    Hell look at the playoffs. The D did way more than enough for us to win that game. Hell the offense scored more points for the opponent than they did for us.
    Yeah Rodgers 2 ints didn't have anything to do with a 2 point game against Cincinnati. LoL
     
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  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Welp, Rodgers had 3 games winning drives in 2025 so I guess those count for the offense. But that still leaves 14 other games.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    But that leaves out how did he get to those game winning drives. Outside of one game, can anyone tell me out of the 10 games we won that the Offense carried the Defense?? No it was the other way around.
     
  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but no, that logic does not hold up at all. Whatever happened in the victories doesn't erase the games the defense lost for them. The defense faltered badly in the losses to the Bengals and Bears. I don't know how anybody can not blame the defense for those games.

    There were also other victories in which the offense played well, but the defense also did its job. The win against the Bengals comes to mind as an example.
     
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  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Again. The offense had no impact on the loss to the Bengals. Funny , we lost by 2 points, and Rodgers threw 2 ints. Hmm:hmm:
    Well instead of making the D drag you through every win , but one, how about win some games for yourself Offense.
    Yeah the int, and fumble by our offense had nothing to do with our loss against the Bears.
     
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  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Not nothing, but the offense still did its job in both of those games. The defense couldn't hold up.
     
  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Is it hard for people to answer questions, without changing the subject??
    I was told the Defense sucked, and yet all of our 10 wins, but 1 were because of the Defense. I asked for people to show me the games the offense was the main reason, and not the Defense we won, and you are giving me games the Offense lost ,but outside of the 4 turnovers they had they played well enough to win. LoL
    I asked what Games the offense actually was the main reason we won, not they should have won.
     
  10. Formerscribe

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    Yes, I'm aware that you are trying to find a way to phrase things that removes many of the defense's worst performances, the ones they cost the team the game.

    It is not as if the defense carried the team by itself in the rest of the games. The offense lit up the Bengals twice. The offense was a huge part of beating the Lions and the Dolphins. It at least did its job in both victories over the Ravens. It is not accurate to say the defense carried them in any of those.
     
  11. forgotten1

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    team sport
    3 facets
    if one facet fails it is highly likely the team fails.

    defense suckedass for what they got paid
     
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  12. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Steelers were 8-1 when the offense had no turnovers. OTOH, they were 3-7 when the offense turned the ball over at least once. This tells me the offense was so weak it couldn't overcome its own mistakes. Offensive TOs were the number one correlator to wins/losses.

    Steelers were 7-3 in one possession games. Three losses; Browns (offense scores 6 pts), Bears, and Bengals gm1.
     
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  13. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    I agree and we all know by what others here posted that the other team handed us the ball without turning it over and they really would have beat ourass without their generous donations and hard work at being so charitable and insistent to no end.
     
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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    I had almost erased that foolishness from my brain
     
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  15. MojoUW

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    You have to also weight the wins based on how reliant the Steelers were on star players. Wins where star players make the plays don't count as much. Too dangerous to rely on those guys.
     
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  16. forgotten1

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    ah yes, The Marilyn McCoo Cover Two playing style.
    definitely do not want to rely on such players but players celebrate after a simple tackle ugh
     
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  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We want in so we can bark to go out again

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    And I’ve done that at least 6 more times
     
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  18. NorthernBlitz

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    I think the reason that the sites were "incorrect" is that they had to make an assumption about the clause in his contract to convert salary to a bonus this year.

    The structure of his contract is weird.

    I still don't know if we did this. But I assume since nothing was reported that (1) we paid him the roster bonus he was owed - he was not cut and (2) we did not exercise the option to convert salary into a bonus (lowering this year's cap number and pushing more dead money into the future).

    I think (2) above is a good idea. We could still trade him (although it would have been better for us to do before the roster bonus). But I also think that not converting the salary to bonus makes it more likely that this is his last year with us (or at least will make it easier for us to walk away next year if we want to).
     
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  19. NorthernBlitz

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    IMO, the D was bad at getting of the field.

    But did have lots of turnovers.

    So in games we got turnovers, we did well.

    But if we didn't get turnovers...bad news.

    This is why the offense ran so few plays this year IMO.

    The D's 3rd down efficiency was very bad this year. We weren't good at getting off the field without turnovers. And since turnovers are low probability events (even for teams that get a lot of them), this is a tough way to try to win consistently IMO.
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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  21. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Though throughout Tomlins career as our HC, we where almost always tops in turnovers created.
     
  22. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Ah Geez!!!!
    You had to bring that up. How that used to burn me up. If we got a turnover , they apparently gave it to us, and if we turned the ball over , it was because the other team forced it. LoL. You talk about trying to mold reality to fit their crazy thought process.
     
  23. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I asked the dang question, and you have tried to change it. LoL, and yet somehow now I'm trying to change it???
    If you give your students a test, and they don't like the question, do they get to change it, and then blame you for changing it??? That's what you are doing.
     
  24. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    ME?
    It was brought like 43 times since start of free agency and today
    :smiley1:
     
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  25. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL, I was talking about the people that used to say that.
     

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