Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by uncblue012, Dec 29, 2020.
If you are happy with a QB who ranked 48 out of 57 QBs who started a game last year, who was replaced by an undrafted rookie, and who got progressively worse as the year progressed then more power to you. As someone who lived through the Bubby Brister, Jim Miller, Kent Graham, Mike Tomzak days, I expect more.
I think Rudolph’s coming in with a big bad Chip and I wouldn’t underestimate him. He’ll want to impress many eyes with coaching positions open around the league.
Untill he gets hit a couple of times, or a browns player says somthing to him and it gets under his skin
The great Bob Prince use to use the term "hidden vigorish" for factors or trends that stats and numbers alone can't quantify. As an example, I fully expect the Browns to be wound tighter than a garage door spring. The fact that they have to win, the way the lost last week and the fact that they have a history of finding ways to blow opportunities all factor in. If the Steelers can jump on them early, maybe force some three and outs, or better still, a couple of turnovers and maybe get a lead, the locals could start to turn on them. That would be epic.
I agree, but how are they going to get those stops? I could see them sitting the entire defensive line, Watt, and Edmunds, who is nursing a minor injury. Risking Haden would make little sense when they have enough corners to play without him. Do we really want to see the Steelers risk Fitzpatrick under those circumstances?
Understood. My theory is more about the Browns self imploding. The mistakes they might make. I mean, one doesn't need to be a starter to fall on a fumble. Whoever starts for the Steelers wouldn't be blamed for dumb procedural penalties against the Browns. Or, a blown assignment, missed FG. I look at it this way; I would have never thought the Jets could have beaten Cleveland last week, even without their starting wide receivers. Everything they had to play for, the years of frustration and they still couldn't muster enough plays to beat a one win team. I'm a realist. I don't expect the Steelers to win but, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the they make just enough plays and the Browns make just enough mistakes for the Steelers to win.
If highlight reel is how you judge a qb then Duck and Mason are all pro’s too. Dobb has been given plenty of chances and hasn’t showed anything. He cannot move the offense.
Well, you were wrong on this one:
The Browns D are deciding how they want to score at this point..Mason can't call his own plays and our OC couldn't fool a trout into hitting a panther martin after starving for 30 days...So the O will be beyond vanilla the Browns will know 90 % of our plays or better pre snap ... So they get to choose send the blitz from here you strip sack then you come from here and scoop we block this WR who ran a short route and take it to the house ...Or you sit at this spot Mason will throw to this spot now player #2 when you see him release it waltz in front take the easy pick and show me your best endzone dance... These are the hard choices the Browns are making this week..
Some people grab a headline, do no fact checking and run with it.
with fichtner calling the plays PWP is correct. They will simply sit on the short stuff and play downhill the whole game. Killing receivers on those short crossing routes and blitzing the hell out of Rudolph. This game will probably be over by the end of the 2nd quarter but who knows? Maybe we can pull off a miracle.
Browns are the ones under pressure Sunday. Maybe we don't need all the starters to beat the Clowns.
We’ve already won the division and earned a spot in the playoffs. The Browns have all the pressure.
You may be right, but bear in mind Rudolph has been practicing with the firsts all year on Ben’s day off. He’s got a 5-3 year under his belt. He can run the offense by now.
I think much will depend on whether his receivers remember how to catch the ball. Run a few screens early on, find the mismatch left by the blitz, and it may be closer than you suggest.
Aware of how optimistic I’m being there...
RF needs to use the second half is last weeks game plan for passes. If he calls a run or two, it might shock the world.
Before mason took that nasty hit where he hot KO'd....his production was actually not bad.
Not saying he is the second coming of Montana but even if he can have Batch like backup numbers would be awesome.
More Browns COVID drama...new for Saturday Morning.
Local NYC radio says game may be in jeopardy. NOT GOOD! This article says game STILL ON! GOOD>
Dobbs has hardly been given a chance. His career consists of 12 pass attempts in 5 games with 0 starts.
I don’t believe he is the future starter of this team, though. Need to address it this year in the draft, IMO.
I am glad to be wrong on this one. That would be just heart breaking to think that was the case.
I just read on Yahoo that Mason is willing to talk it out with Garrett but he's received no response.
I think Rudolph is a class act. His willingness to talk it out with Garrett is a display of his class and I believe his innocents. One party not willing to talk it out often shows they were the guilty party.
I like Rudolph and I hope he does well. He seems like a good kid and his teammates seem to like him. He is not too full of himself. I hope they give him the chance to throw the ball a good bit and see what he can do. It would be stupid not to take this opportunity to give the kid a good look.
So, what defines a good (or acceptable ) outing for Mason? I am rooting for him big time to do well and silence his critics a little. For me, I will be pleased if he can move the ball and run the offense like a veteran should and keep the score within 7-10 points. Preferably Steelers having the most points. Needs to have a decent passing completion percentage and YPC average. Also, no turnovers (pics or fumbles) and being mobile in the pocket (or out of it) not allowing a sack would be a bonus. These things will require a team effort and not solely just him. It would also help if RF does his job correctly and not hamstring him into bs plays that are predictable (asking a lot aren't I). He doesn't have to win but if he could be a team desperate for a win to get in the playoffs, plus being a division rival, that would speak volumes.