Rudolph to start against Seattle.

You're not wrong but so far this year, Kenny's best game was against that same defense so if that was enough reason for us to have hope for Kenny, then last Sundays performance by Mason should warrant the same hope.

 

There are degrees of concussion. Pickett has never had anything similar to Rudolph. Not many people have.

 

That is where the argument doesn't hold up. This is Pickett's second season, Rudolph's sixth.

 

Every concussion is different. Some don't look like anything and linger. Others look terrible and the guy is fine in a week. Many, many people have suffered concussions every bit as bad as the one Rudolph had against the Ravens. It didn't turn them into scrubs for four years.

You don't know how bad Rudolph's concussion was in 2019. You know what we saw on the field, but that's it. You are just assuming that the psychological impact was still with him a month later when he returned, but you don't know that, either. You keep insisting that circumstances caused Rudolph to press and get into bad habits, but refuse to acknowledge that the same thing happened to Pickett this season. That is why I say it is your judgment that is clouded.

 

There isn't any argument to hold up because I'm not arguing anything with you. If you go back and follow this thread, I pointed out to tiggs that I never mentioned Pickett in any of my posts. If you want to have a discussion comparing Pickett and Rudolph, by all means do so but leave me out of it.
All I was pointing out in my last post is that because I had hope for Kenny's play to improve after the Bengals game, I am hoping that Mason can continue to play well against Seattle after what he did against the Bengals. Nothing more.

There is no trophy here for you to win.

 

All I got to say is it's funny how open our Wrs looked last week...after not looking so open all year. Really I'm lying, and any who watched tape has seen open wrs all year long, our Qbs just haven't seen them. One more thing. KFP in over 20 starts has 1....multiple td game. Mason with way less starts has 6 games with multiple tds. Tell Me why???

 

What does this list mean??? Whats it showing??? Somehow I quoted the wrong person....I meant it to be the guy above You @Busman

 

I really hope this is happens.

 

this - I thought that narrative was laughable that our WR's don't get open. Mason exposed that WIDE OPEN. Kenny has been lame, that is what we all agree upon, at this point. I wish he was better but he is not. Kenny missed SO MANY open WR's all season long and early in games, when it matters , that ended up putting us in huge holes ALL SEASON long, ending in 3 pt. first halves.

Sure - canada did suck, but so did kenny.

 

I felt all along he changed after the knockout concussion. I'm guessing he was rushed back too soon. It would have made me jumpy if I was hearing ringing in my ears the whole time while trying to keep my vision clear from double vision or the field spinning on me.

 

The WR's have been open all year, Pickett either doesn't get through his reads and see the open guys or he bails too early to get the ball to guys that would otherwise be open. DJ said something in praise of Mason post-game that he appreciated Mason sticking in the pocket to let the plays develop and allow his guys to get open.

Mason's issue was never that he couldn't read the defense, it was that his accuracy broke down when the first option wasn't open and he isn't quite the athlete to make things happen when the play breaks down. Pickett CAN make things happen when the play breaks down, but he has struggled mightily to read the defenses pre and post snap. Often times Pickett would "break the play down" himself and bail to get himself into an area he is more comfortable in (to the detriment of the team/play) by bailing out of relatively clean pockets by NFL standards.

Essentially Pickett doesn't throw Multi-TD games because he struggles to read the game at the NFL level and he is otherwise a bottom tier QB accuracy wise. So essentially he misses seeing dudes that are open and delivers too high a percentage of off target balls and too low a percentage of on target balls.

 

This is why I am so down on Kenny for next season. It would be one thing if he maximized Canada's offense and made the plays that were available to him. If that were the case, then nearly all the blame would be on Canada's scheme... But there WERE plays to be had in Canada's system, he just missed them. He either missed the open players entirely or delivered inaccurate balls (or poorly timed balls) to guys that would have made the play otherwise. Kenny will continue to miss those plays in a new system. A new system could put him in better positions to succeed and get more out of the talent we have on that side of the ball, but it isn't going to read the field for him. It won't help him see the open guys he is missing. It won't make him more accurate. He will just be a below par QB operating a better system to marginally higher success.

The plays are there to be made (they were there even in Canada's offense too) we just need to find a guy at the QB position that can consistently make them.

 

I realize that both DJ and Pickens have both acted like divas at various points this season, but can you imagine how frustrating it is for a receiver to go through their route and just when they break open they turn just in time to see Kenny on the run once again or throwing it to the check down? I’ve seen Kenny bail from the pocket way too many times when the pocket’s still there and the play hasn’t broken down.

 

I see a lot of Kenny not getting through his reads.

What most of the QB analysis that I’ve watched have said is the reads in the offense don’t make sense. Routes are being run that are supposed to get certain other WRs open, but it appears that the reads didn’t match up with what the combinations were attempting to do.

when they cut Canada, those same guys have noted that it looks like the reads are starting to match the concepts that they’re trying to run.

The problem with Mitch was he just sucked!

Mason took what he was given and took his shots. I personally thought that was the best I’ve seen his footwork since he’s been here.

Kenny looked like he was at least having a solid game before he got hurt. You have to remember he came into that game with a mysterious ankle injury that week as well. So he really wasn’t 100 anyway!

 

I'm using argument interchangeably with claim in this case. Strong performances by both against the Bengals do not mean the same thing because Pickett is in year two and Rudolph is in year six.

 

They haven't been open nearly that often, so it is misleading for all of you to suggest otherwise. The Bengals really are that bad.

 

Does the barber have any more information on what the Steelers have discussed with Mason regarding a new contract

 

oh, YES they were. WATCH the games. Go back and watch the first half of the YEAR and see how PUTRID Kenny was and how may receivers he missed. he was awful.

it is not misleading to share truth. maybe you are watching AI manipulated film?

I know that is counter cultural in our WOKE world today, but open your eyes. No one is blinder than he who will not see. Plenty of that here, that is for sure.

Kenny has been awful.

See the JAX game especially for CASE in point.