Rudolph to start against Seattle.

You’re probably right, but here’s hoping for an improbable comeback story.

 

Asking simple questions without insulting you in any way causes you to call me an idiot?

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

That's because the others are out of Qbs. LoL

 

I don't know why, but I do know , and I have said it many times. ..that I thought it strange that out of all the Qbs that have been here while Ben was Here, and everyone knows I'm a Ben fan.....why was Mason the only Qb Ben didn't like???

 

We shouldn't call names....I'm guilty of it also, but it doesn't make it right. Although You have a point that I have said many times before. Why out of all the Qbs that Ben played with here ....Why only did Mason bothered Him??? I don't know this as fact, but I always suspected that Mason was the only one that Ben saw as an actual threat.

 

So true. Can't believe 3 out of 4 in one division. And I'm sure Raven fans are holding their breath. He has a injury history. This could be a very rare occasion for Steeler fans. It is in our best interest for the Ravens to win and clinch the Bye. As tough as it is for a lot on board, they will be pulling for them.

 

One of the funnier things I've seen on this board. Maybe it's the weed but I laughed my ass off

 

Like I said, he perhaps saw him as a threat and didn’t mentor him because he didn’t want him to get better.

 

Sure is a lot of theories about Mr. Rudolph. I haven't a clue why he's handled by the Steelers the way he is.

It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

 

Trubisky once threw six touchdowns in one NFL game. Did that show potential?

He hasn't shown more potential than the other quarterbacks on the roster. I'm not sure what magic you are talking about. He had one solid game before the concussion in 2019, and almost all of that was dump-off passes to the running backs against yet another terrible Bengals defense. (He did throw a long touchdown to Johnson, but the rest was short stuff.)

 

Agreed. I'd love it if the guy we saw against the Bengals last week was real. I'm just not optimistic.

 

Wrong, he had decent outing against Seattle as I already posted the stats. He scored 26 points against San Francisco, but our leaky defense allowed 28. He beat Cincinnati and was moving the ball against Ravens before the KO. I won’t bother looking up Trubisky’s stat, but I don’t think he threw 6 touchdowns in his first 5 starts. I love lived in Western Michigan and got Bear games. He was dreadful and Bear fans pretty much booed him out of there. If he threw 6 TD’s he showed potential, but his story has already been written after 57 starts. Pickett has shown who he is after 24. We can argue all we want, but the in two days, he will be performing in one of the toughest places to play for opposing teams. It will tell a lot. Tomlin and Steeler staff are probably thinking the same.

 

That’s always bothered me about Ben. If you’ll recall, Ben had mentioned retirement on more than one occasion so blaming the Steelers for wanting to prepare for the future was ridiculous. And to act like a middle school mean girl toward Rudolph was pathetic. I really believe that Rudolph’s potential was hindered because Ben failed to help him and he was drafted by an organization as ill-equipped as any to develop a young quarterback.

 

Trubisky and

I think locker room ribbing by your team mates can be brutal. I am sure someone jokingly told Ben.."See that good looking rookie over there, he's going to run you out of here.' After Rudolph first action after Seattle game, somebody probably made up stuff to Ben,' I heard Coach T say that Rudolph looking like the answer.' We may not need you next year Ben, You better shave that beard off or you may not get a TV gig next year....on second thought leave that beard on...you too ugly without it.' Ben probably took it to heart.

 

Hopefully the link comes through because this will jog your memory. The Steelers did not score 26, they lost the game 20-24. The video only shows the plays where Rudolph passes but you can deduce that the running game was working well in the first two drives that got them six points. That "leaky" defense got two picks from Jimmy G.
Mason's first TD was a very nice pass to Juju. His second was to a wide open DJ deep. No one was within 5 yards of him. The rest of his passes were mostly of the shorter variety and not all that noteworthy. Kind of what you would expect out of a QB with little experience. Not great, not horrible.

 

Here is his next game against the Bengals. Again, nothing too spectacular but he took care of the ball. Another wide open TD to DJ but he saw it and got it there. One really good off script play to the tight end Vanett. Lot of short throws. His defense gave him 2 turnovers. He didn't beat the Bengals, the team did.

 

And here is the game against the Ravens. I certainly wouldn't say that Rudolph had them moving. In fact, the defense gave the offense the ball twice with good field position off of interceptions and the offense could only get six points. Rudolph did have a pretty good throw to Juju on a touchdown and actually the play that got Rudolph hurt was a pretty good play on his part. The Steelers were down 17 to 13 after that point. Hodges and the defense got them to 23 points but then the Ravens won in overtime with a field goal.

 

He showed more potency than Pickett or Trubisky in his first few starts. It just proves my point that he’s the best qb on the team. He played well last game. Is he a franchise qb? I don’t know, those are incredibly hard to come by. Could he be an Alex Smith type journeyman.. possibly… will know more Sunday. Are Pickett and Trubisky in a long line of forgettable qb like Kent Graham, Todd Blackledge, Cliff Stoudt, Mike Tomczak, etc yes and a touch below Bubby Brister, NOD, Tommy Maddox. I think Rudolph has potential be like Tommy Maddox type stopgap answer… again will know more Sunday

 

Funny how you avoid his statistics from that San Francisco game. He completed only 51 percent of his passes for 174 yards, two touchdowns, and an interception. He didn't score 26 points. The team did with the help of five turnovers forced by that leaky defense.

The running backs did a lot more to beat the Bengals that year than Rudolph did. The numbers looked good because they couldn't cover a dump-off pass to a running back.

No, I did not count half of a game as a good game.

Yes, he had a decent start to the game against the Ravens. Hodges looked good against them, too, so I'm not sure how impressive that was.

Rudolph has one big game against a horrid defense in year six and you think he might be something special, but you want to give up on Pickett before the end of his second season. Your logic is laughable.

 

I forgot to list Mark Malone above. I guess he was forgettable too.

 

I am willing to give up on Pickett after 24 starts. Rudolph has shown me more in 12 starts. I have never said Rudolph is going to be a Franchise QB or something special. I just said he has shown me more potential than Pickett or Trubisky It is a logical deduction based upon him having a more consistent college career than Pickett. Pickett only had one good year. Pickett also doesn’t seem go through progressions and lacks the ability to stretch the field. It also seems to me that players like Highsmith are more behind Rudolph than Pickett. They have seen him in practice . You are just upset that I placed Rudolph above your boy Pickett. It’s possible that he could have a horrible game this Sunday, or he could ball out. I guess Tomlin also wants to find out more about Rudolph, because if he believed in Pickett, believe me Pickett would be starting. I have no idea how Rudolph is going to do this Sunday, but I have good idea how Pickett would have done. Wishing success for Rudolph is different from predicting success.

 

You painted a picture that Rudolph was a world beater and beat those teams by himself. I simply provided video to show that his play wasn't as other-worldly as you made it seem. You were also inaccurate with your facts.
Yes, Rudolph showed he might have something to work with. He did show solid pocket presence. However, remember that these games were before the concussion. His play after it diminished considerably, at least the way I remember it. I would have to go back and watch some tape from those games to confirm that

 

One thing that stuck out to me after watching those videos of Rudolph's games pre-concussion was how open the receivers were. Even though he threw a lot of short to intermediate routes, it was the right read and more often than not, the back or receiver was open to run for yards after catch. Even two of his long touchdown throws were to a wide open DJ with no one around him. Was this scheme? It's not like he was throwing to guys that are better as a group than what they have now.