Rooney forced Arians out

As per the NFL site.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...time-in-pittsburgh?module=HP11_headline_stack

Discuss

 

If Rooney did override Tomlin then that could be disconcerting though these articles usually don't tell the whole story.

 

I believed this to be the case all along. Speaks volumes about Tomlin not wanting to make the change. I don't believe Mike has the cajones to can personnel when they do not perform up to standard. Couldn't bench Ben when he needed to heal and welcomed Arians back after a dismal situational play calling season. I really Hope Tomlin becomes more involved and vocal but so far it just isn't in his demeanor to rock the boat.

 

Like I said in another thread, Mike had better make the right hire at OC or it could be his last.

 

I don't think there is any doubt that Rooney overrode Tomlin. A change needed to be made and I'm glad that Rooney made the change.

 

I saw that story and thought the exact same thing. The Rooney's did what Tomlin wouldn't do.

 

Thank goodness for Art Rooney. Really makes me question Tomlin and why he would choose the easy route of retaining an under performing OC rather than trying to get our offense better. As the saying goes (paraphrasing): Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results. Keeping BA for another year would have been insane.

 

If Mr. Rooney made the move, it's hard to argue with it. With as much talent as this team possesses at the skill position, there seems no reason why our offense has been erratic at best. The tenure that Arians had with the team was long enough to allow for a fair evaluation of his work.

I think Arians is a good offensive coordinator, though for whatever reason the results here in Pittsburgh have left much to be desired. I think the move is well-timed and in the best interests of the Steeler organization.

 

I wonder how much of that is Tomlin attributing mistakes to the players and deflecting it from the coaching staff. To admit that it was a coaching problem is to admit that Tomlin isn't the be all know all coach that he thinks he is. I recall during the Cowher era he replaced the special teams coach and it was news worthy. While Cowher went through a bunch of coordinators, most left to become head coaches. Anyone recall if Cowher ever fired a coordinator?

 

where is kevin colbert in all of this?

 

This really makes me question Tomlin and also makes me wonder about his future with the team. If the Rooney's don't trust him to make the proper personnel decisions, then how can they trust him to continue to be the leader of the team? All I know is that if Tomlin doesn't get the right OC this time around, he will likely be looking for a new job in a couple years, because I can't see the Rooney's allowing him to make another mistake with a coordinator.

 

Here's another angle to consider. Tomlin may be smarter than y'all give him credit for. In my view, Mike could have wanted Ariens out but didn't want the animosity of the team members who liked him. Mike has to work with them on a daily basis and has to have their trust and confidence. Rooney doesn't. So Mike goes to big Art and says let's get rid of this guy but you do it because I don't want the guys to be pissed at me. Art sees the wisdom in that and complies.

 

Rooney is trying to protect his investment. This style of play continuing would greatly shorten his 100 million dollar QB's career.

I don't know though. Arians has wanted to bail for 3 years now. He is not naive, he knows what everyone thinks about him. If you are not appreciated why do it?

 

:goodpost:

 

Tomlin never picked Arians...according to Gerry Dulac...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12021/1205041-66.stm

 

well he is the big boss so if he wanted him gone thats why he is gone...i Just hope we dont turn into dallas

 

I have stated before that Tomlin doesn't know much about the offensive side of the ball. AS hard as that may seem to believe I feel it's true. His roots are on the defensive side of the ball and I feel his decision to make BA the OC 5 years ago was because he was already in house and didn't know any one else he could hire. I also feel that it was the reason for his reluctance to get rid of BA. I think he was worrried about being responsible for letting BA go and finding his replacement. He speaks of continuity, but is that what you want when things are continually bad. His lack of knowledge about the offense and with the way he likes to remove himself from it and delegate all the power to the OC ,I feel it is very important to bring in a strong personality to put his stamp on this offense. To me that should remove Fichtner from the equation because I'm not sure enough will change with him. So if it's true that Rooney did indeed force BA out ,then I wouldn't be surprised if he has a lot to do with who they hire. That might not be such a bad thing either.

 

A lot of owners constantly get involved the day to day football decisions and often overrule their GM's and coaches. The Rooney's have never been like that. They hand over the keys to the car and let the staff drive it as they please, but they make it known they expect results. I really don't ever recall Cowher wanting to keep someone and Rooney overruling him. I don't think that would have happened. That's just my opinion though.

 

If that was true, that would make me lose all faith in Tomlin. A head coach needs to make difficult decisions that are best for the team. A head coach cannot be scared he is going to upset some or all of the players. If Tomlin is so mentally weak he can't even make a decision that upsets some of the players, then he should never have been hired in the first place.

Luckily I don't believe this is true one little bit.

 

I`m just glad he`s gone.
I do have to wonder if Tomlin simply didn`t know where or how to find a better coordinater, or if maybe, "Cokeoven" is onto something, when he said Tomlin just didn`t want it to "appear" as if he got rid of Arians...
Regardless, it was way overdue, IMHO.
The ONLY thing that concerns me(besides finding the best possible replacement), is how Ben is going to react to this...
It has already been reported from numerous sources, that he "is not happy about it"....
That leaves a lot to the imagination, about what his exact words were, and what his attitude is going to be like, going into next season.
I don`t believe he will purposefully do badly, just because he is in a bad mood, but it sure doesn`t sound like he is going to go into this with an open mind, willing to accept the change, for the better, either.
Hopefully, as time passes over the next few months, he will get control of his emotions, and focus on doing what is best, to acheive his, and the team`s goal of winning more superbowls than any quarterback in history!!!
As glad as I am to have him as our qb, I gotta admit, there are times I question his maturity, and level-headedness, as far as doing what is best for the team, and not just himself.
I have a gut feeling that a happy Ben, is a more productive Ben, on the field...
Hopefully he will grow, and learn, and still produce the awesome results on the field, whether he is personally thrilled about the situation, or not.

 

Does anyone think that maybe Rooney got rid of him to perhaps keep fans happy? Even when the won the superbowl there were fans wanting him gone and what a perfect time to do it after losing to the broncos. This may turn out to be bad because if they go in-house for a replacement, then the offense will more than likely look similar if not exactly the same.

 

I have considered that. There's been so much uproar among fans about getting rid of Arians that perhaps Rooney took that into consideration. It obviously wouldn't be the only reason to get rid of him, but it could have been a factor. Fans are quite powerful when united. Tebow only got a shot because he had such a huge fan following that put pressure on Denver's coaching staff to start him.

 

Please stop giving us so much credit. The Rooneys have not built the league's most dominant franchise for the past 40 years by following FAN sentiment. What it may reflect is that the FANS frustrations were the same as the Rooneys - not the other way around. The day the Rooneys make a change in reaction to fans emotions is the day that the Steelers organization becomes no better than the Clowns.

 

Im not to concerned with Tomlin and Rooneys working relationship. Tomlin is still a young coach with a great track record. Im sure the Rooney Family will make sure that Tomlin understands what they want for their franchise. As for the new OC I believe whomever we hire they will be firmly entrenched in the Steeler way.

I do think the days of running 60 percent of the time is over. The way Goodell has changed the rules to make this a pass happy wanabee arena football league. Because of this we have to pass at least 50 percent or more. I do believe we wont be passing with an empty backfield on 3rd and 1 ala BA. Thats where we will man up and run the ball!

That said I hope the rooneys select another dark horse like Tomlin and Cowher. We usually do well when they do this.

GO Steelers! Fire GOODELL and let him go to the arena league where he belongs.