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Roethlisberger: Washington needs to make that catch

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Amazing isn’t it? We lose one game after 6 straight wins, and it’s the Steeler Apocalypse
     
  2. AskQuestionsLater

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    Care to elaborate?
     
  3. Daddymac10

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    More important, we need a responsible QB not throw game-ending goal line interceptions. He did the same thing against the Patriots last year. He did the same thing in the Superbowl against the Seahawks. Whenever he's shotgun with no RB inside the 5 yard line, any defense know there's no threat of a run. Why in the world would you do that, even if your intent is to throw the ball?? It's not like Ben is a credible threat to run...
     
  4. thesteeldeal

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    I wonder if Washington even gets a chance to redeem himself today. It would be a shame to not give him that opportunity after taking some criticism this week. He is now a topic of conversation amongst the media as well(sigh). It wouldn't be right especially with no clear cut better options behind him right now. Give the kid a few easy chances early. Not everything has to be a low percentage opportunity. Crosses ,slants ,curls he's got to be able to run some of those. I'm sure right now he's feeling more pressure than he was leading up to last week. Having him inactive would probably do more harm than good. Hunter isn't the answer and until Eli gets up to speed and can offer at least another option,they should do their best to get him pointed in the right direction.

    https://steelersdepot.com/2018/12/will-james-washington-get-his-chance-to-bounce-back/
     
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  5. shaner82

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    Love hearing how Ben is a future HOF'er that he is somehow justified in ripping teammates on his stupid radio show. A panel of HOF'ers (and past league MVP's) were on the NFL network today, all of them were very critical of Ben doing what he did. All of them said they didn't like when teammates did that stuff. But I guess Ben somehow knows best, after all, he's been a passive aggressive piece of **** his whole career, so why stop now.
     
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  6. The Sodfather

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    Let me ask you something. What did he say that was wrong? Forget the "keeping it behind closed doors" bull****. And that's what it is, bull****. These are suppose to be grown-assed men; professionals. Anyway, was he suppose to say, "James will be fine". He works hard in practice. He'll be there when we need him"? If JW's feelings are hurt, and it puts a chip on his shoulder then good, maybe that's exactly what is needed. This isn't tee-ball where everyone get's a participation trophy. Personally, I don't think it's healthy to be continually throwing players under the bus, but a second round draft pick who, to this point hasn't produced, then oh well, get over it. Ben has more important things to worry about. And before you bark back with the tired argument, "well, he should throw less interceptions, then maybe he can criticize." Please save it. As much as you apparently can't stand the guy, even you aren't dumb enough to think a better candidate is on the sideline, or even on 3/4's of the rest of the NFL's rosters. Time will tell if whether he said Tuesday either motivates Washington or not. If it did, great. Objective reached. If not, well then tough. He probably will be out of the league within a couple of years anyway.
     
  7. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going to go back and forth because I've already said my piece. Those who disagree with me will not change their minds and I won't change mine. You think speaking publicly of teammates is bull****, I don't. I think you keep **** in house. You don't bad mouth teammates to the media. There's nothing that can be gained from that. I have no doubt Washington is trying but for whatever reason it hasn't come together yet. Do you know what other WR's don't put up good numbers in their rookie years? Almost all of them. WR's that put up good numbers in their rookie years are few and far between. Washington is either not ready or his skill set isn't going to translate to NFL success. If he's simply not putting the work in, then that's where the coaching staff need to step in and address it how they see fit.

    The only reason I even commented on this thread again is because it's ridiculous that Ben is somehow justified in saying what he said because he's a SB winner, future HOF'er, etc. Like I said, there's no shortage of SB winners, HOF'ers and league MVP's that have criticized Ben for doing what he did.

    As for Ben being the best QB on the roster, that's completely irrelevant. Everyone knows he is, but that has nothing to do with this topic. And no, we will never know whether Ben's comments helped or hurt Washington. If he starts lighting it up, it may or may not have anything to do with what Ben said. If he never plays another snap, it may or may not have been a result of Ben's comments. We will never know and Washington and Ben may not even ever know.
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    That last bit sounds like you are a little worried that Washington might respond positively today. :)

    You and many others are making way too big a deal out of this. And yes, I've heard talking heads rip Roethlisberger for this. I've also heard talking heads back him up. His teammates have had his back. That includes Washington and Antonio Brown. There has been a lot of talk about a non-issue.
     
  9. thesteeldeal

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    Preach my man....and don't worry I already mentally prepared myself for the BS that Ben is responsible when Washington does come around. It won't be because of Ben. It will be because cream rises to the top...
    The talent is there ,he's not a Belitnikoff winner for nothing. He just has to find a way for that to translate at the NFL level. It might take a little more seasoning....
    I still stand by my belief that Ben and Fichtner can be doing a bit more to make him comfortable and effective and I'm not alone in that opinion....
     
  10. NY STEELERFAN

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    Guess we won't be able to to see how Washington reacts as Ben got his way and JW is inactive........nice!!!!!!
     
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  11. shaner82

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    Worried that Washington might respond positively? You do realize I'm a Steelers fan before anything else right? I hope Washington goes off for 8,000 yards, because that means we win. Winning is what I care most about.

    My point was we'll never know. Even if he went off for a huge game, it's not like we'd know why it occurred. Could be because of Ben or could be a coincidence. Just like if he never does anything in his career, some could say Ben destroyed his confidence, but we have no way of ever knowing that. Not a single person on this site will ever know what impact, if any, Ben's comments had on him. I do stand by my comments though, if you want to tell someone to man up and play better, you do it in the locker room or you do it privately. You don't do it through the media. I will always stand by that belief
     
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  12. shaner82

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    I kind of feel sorry for him now. His ridiculously stupid play has been replayed hundreds of times, his QB ripped into him publicly and now he doesn't even get a chance to try and redeem himself. Definitely having a rough start to his career.
     
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  13. NY STEELERFAN

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    Well the one good thing is a lot of people on tv which are former players and coaches agree with what we are talking about. Anyways almost game time let’s go Steelers.
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    11 games into the season, don't you think they have been doing that, Shaner?

    People are making this personal when it's just Ben trying to get this kid going. His poor play also will have implications on the draft, will they need to draft another WR because they don't know if they can depend on JW? He needs to get it together.

    I don't care about a little hurt feelings, I care about the Steelers succeeding. Ben didn't "rip" him, he offered some constructive criticism, he practically laid pillows down for the kid.
     
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  15. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure they have been and I'm sure he's been doing everything he can to succeed. It's not like he's known as Josh Gordon type where he's not willing to put in the work. I'm sure the kid is trying, it's just not coming together for him. What good is it going to do to kick him when he's down?

    The reality is he's a rookie WR. Most rookie WR's don't do squat in the NFL. Once upon a time it was just accepted that rookie WR's needed 3 years to really get going. The Julio's and Beckham's have ruined that notion a little bit but there's still a lot of truth to it. Look at Cory Davis, Mike Williams, basically every WR drafted this year, etc. It takes time for WR's.

    We will just have to agree to disagree. I believe in keeping things in house. I very strongly believe that and always will. If criticism in house doesn't work, criticism via the media isn't going to magically produce change
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    How do you know it won't work? IMO, you turn over every rock you can.

    I don't agree most rookie WRs don't produce at all and JW is almost at no production at all.
     
  17. NY STEELERFAN

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    Gonna have a lot to talk about on the radio show this week.......just sayin
     
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  18. 86WardsWay

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    I'm sure and very certain that he will own up to missing Hunter on that easy TD.
     

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