Roethlisberger speaks on Haley hire, state of offense

haley will saved what was good in arians offense implementing what was missing . (a lot)
step by step he will insert always more things , a sudden completely change is not clever ben is right about the youngs receiver but somebody has to explain him that the offense is not only one position

 

He's still in shock but he'll be fine

 

Sounds to me Bens trying to make a case to keep tossing it 40 times a game, don’t get me wrong the new age NFL is throwing it all over the yard but like many posters have said every pass does not have to be a home run or a 20yd in/out. He is making an early excuse for when he screws up or one of the receivers run the wrong route it almost seems he wants to say I told you so. Claiming they are young should be a good thing not a negative about installing a new system, they are not set in their ways and can learn a new system or lingo a little quicker. Ben needs to quit being a baby and get in the room with Haley and go to work, you get paid 100 mill you should do or say anything your owner and coaches tell you too. I think that Haley will make Ben a much better QB if Ben mans up and excepts some coaching.

 

There will be some similarities in Arians' offense and Haley's. Arians had some of Whisenhunt's philosophy in his offense, and so does Haley.

 

i see nothing wrong with anything he said! its true it would be dumb to have whole sale change and set Brown and others back

 

What I took from Ben's statements: (PS - I don't like what I heard)

1st) Ben might be talking about himself as much as the receiving group, but only mentioned them. To me it would be just as hard if not harder for the TE room because they block and catch.

2nd) Maybe it's good things get shaken up and new terminology gets used if we have had the same verbiage all the way back to Mularkey. I mean, plays, routs and formations must have to get re-used by many teams around the league by a pretty good percentage. Just different names and such. Especially the audibles with our divisional teams who play us twice a year. That pass the Suggs picked off in the second game last year. It was like he friggin knew it was coming by how far he away he lined up from the QB. I always found that play fishy, like he was tipped off.

3rd) He's still seems to be steaming about this whole situation. I'm expecting some fireworks and indignantcy. (is that a word)
I wish that wasn't was I felt like I was reading. He was being honest about the texts and emails, but he should have left the negative stuff in his mouth and said he was excited for the future yadda yadda yadda. Now I'm guessing till training camp. Damn it!!!

 

I agree about this. Just because he got texts that were good, bad, and indifferent, it doesn't mean he had to mention it. Maybe I'm reading into it, but it was almost like he was trying to set himself up as being on Haley's level instead of showing respect for him as a coach.

 

After reading what Ben had to say,I came away thinking Ben is still upset with the OC change and it
also seemed(reading in between the lines)that he does'nt feel confident picking up a new system with different terminology?
We all know Ben is a very good QB.I don't think he's very smart though?Either he's lazy and refuses to work hard or it might be a combo of both?I like Ben,He COULD be great?We all know he has all the tools to become a great QB.I just hope He wants it as much as us fans do?

 

of course he is trying to put him at the same level ,is used to be like that , he always did like this with tomlin and arians . is not haley but the hierarchy and discipline are the biggest problem with ben

 

Diplomacy is not Ben's strong suit. Neither is discretion. There's just something that's not right in saying "I've heard a bunch of stuff, both good and bad". How would it have sounded if Tomlin stood up in front of the cameras today and said, "you know, in spite of all the bad stuff I leaned about Todd Haley, there was some good stuff too so I decided to hire him as our OC". It's not exactly the same thing, but your franchise quarterback, the face of the franchise (theoretically) should be on the same page as the coach when it comes to our new OC, especially with the press. It should have been all positive things to say in your first public comments. I can't help but feel the shots Ben took in the interview do not set a positive tone. Maybe he needs that face to face with Rooney to get it all worked out; clearly he's not there yet.

 

Yeah, I didn't like that either.

Brady, Brees, or Manning would NEVER say anything like that. They're too smart. Hopefully thats it. He's just as dumb as a box of rocks (quite possible). But a TRUE leader would never go on record saying those things. Hes the veteran. Hes the leader. He needs to lead now in this time of transition, whether he agrees or not. To me, thats something Phillip Rivers or Mike Vick would say.

 

His "opinion" does not matter. He's the OC, you're the QB. Work together. Period.

 

I went back and re-read the PG story. Upon reflection, it's even worse than I thought it was. Ben sounds less like a team leader and more like my teenager complaining about his teachers:

"I've gotten a lot of calls and texts and emails from people around the league, both good and bad about him,'' Roethlisberger said during an interview with the Post-Gazette. "Everybody has an opinion, as we all know, and they're letting me know what their interaction with him was -- good, bad and indifferent. I've heard a lot of things and I'm looking forward to meeting him and forming my own opinion."

I don't see how anyone can condone these on-the-record comments by him.

 

Ben does have undertones of dissatisfaction in his words...but look at it from his perspective. Over the past 5 years, not only has the Steelers Offense (for which i'm sure everyboy can agree Ben was the main catalyst) set franchise records for yards and passing yards but the team as a whole has enjoyed 4 season of double digit wins, 4 playoff appearances, 2 Superbowl appearances, and 1 SB win. I'm sure with the exception of Pittsburgh and New England fans, other folks would consider that a very good stretch run, and one to be very proud of. Yes, they came up short this year, but they still ended up tied for the most wins in the division and most pundits agree that Ben enjoyed one of his finer (if not the finest) season as a QB. Most i've listened to thought that this year he "turned the corner" so to speak...matured in his areas of leadership, pre snap recognition, etc. I personally agree with this assessment as well.

Nobody is happy with the way this season ended, but I'm sure Ben's thinking was that the performance of the team over the past 5 years warranted another contract for BA. I don't doubt that he was "shocked" when he learned that BA's contract was not going to be renewed. Furthermore, the team went out and hired an OC that (i'm sure everybody can admit) comes with a certain degree of "baggage." His reputation is pretty well documented, one of a hot head, combative at times, and at the very least extremely strong willed. Not only did the team hire TH, but Ben learned about it like everybody else did...on the evening news. No consultation, no heads up.

It's almost as if Art Rooney is trying to make a point to Ben and put him on notice. Fire his current OC that he was very close with, bring in a feisty offenseive coordinator promising change, make public statements that Ben needs to "tweak his play," hint that the offense should focus more on smash mouth football, etc. Ben is probably thinking to himself, "Why? What we've been doing has been working pretty well so far."

In the end, I believe Ben will come around. He might not enjoy a chummy relationship with TH, but I don't think he will show blatant disrespect either. Remember, we found out after Wisenhunt left that he and Ben had an icy relationship...but for the 3 years KW was the OC for the Steelers, I wouldn't say that it affected the play on the field.

I was no fan of BA, nor am I a fan of TH. I wish my Steelers the best success and if TH can deliver more points out of the offense, the chances of making and winning the SB can only increase. I have a feeling that Ben will figure this out as well, and as Ben goes...so does this offense.

 

As for the email comment... I'm not going to fault Ben for his response without knowing what the question was.

There was a lot of press about players not liking Haley.

What if Ed asked Ben specifically if he had received negative feedback from players?

 

exactly the thing i didn't like the most was i'm waiting for him to have my opinion , he should have say i'm waiting for him to find what job i have to do . ben has to be rein and tomlin has to start it , or the rooney has to come in again

 

Absolutely not.

Thats stuff that you keep to yourself. Regardless of who you are. Regardless of whether you're the starting QB of the Steelers, a local mail carrier, an assembly line operator, a regional sales rep, or a data entry clerk. It transcends all professions. You dont start off a relationship with a new co worker/superior putting those comments out there.

 

Nobody is happy with the way this season ended, but I'm sure Ben's thinking was that the performance of the team over the past 5 years warranted another contract for BA. I don't doubt that he was "shocked" when he learned that BA's contract was not going to be renewed. Furthermore, the team went out and hired an OC that (i'm sure everybody can admit) comes with a certain degree of "baggage." His reputation is pretty well documented, one of a hot head, combative at times, and at the very least extremely strong willed. Not only did the team hire TH, but Ben learned about it like everybody else did...on the evening news. No consultation, no heads up.




ben liked arians because he can do what he wants , and is too lazy too want to improve his play also if he is already at high level , he had problem with wiz too , ben has to understand that going up in the age more help is need and playground style will be always less effective

 

Very true.

Good point.

Consideration taken.

 

Antonio Brown was on the 93.7 The Fan morning show, said he (Brown) talked to Ben and they were both excited about it.
i think we have to take care of what the pg is letting on these days ,seems they were all on arians bandwagon and haley already sayd his father was not reading the pg