Redman needs MRI on groin...

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I don't think it is major,it seems he is taking a leadership role and trying to play through the pain....Whether it is bad or not Dwyer is capable and Redman is gaining more respect by pushing through the pain....Even if he has to miss some time his OL will rembember Red putting his body on the line to get better and when he returns they will give that extra effort when Red is on the field.......

 

I knew this injury would be responsible for helping the entire team! I just didn't know how... GOD BLESS YOU ISAAC REDMAN! You're a saint among men!!!


Still, the next time I pull a groin muscle, I think I'll wait for it to heal before pulling it some more.

Well... depends which groin muscle.

 

Redman is a back up filling in till the starter gets healthy. He goes down just get the next guy in there. Quite a few here think Mendy is a bum, but Red can't beat him out for the starting spot except for injury. Don't get me wrong i like Redman, but I'm realistic. May be time to sign a vet if there is someone half decent available.

 

the only thing that worries me is his timing in the passing game. he was never used much in it before. he was not here when wiesenhunt was here to even be a little familiar with it. ben and the rest are still learning and refining it. no i don't think he knows it plenty yet. this takes time. add the passing game part and he needs reps. this is to bad. we went from penthouse to .... well a nice bathroom anyway. we keep this up and mendy will be the healthiest back we have. or will johnson will show us what he can do from the FB spot. this is unreal. stop with the injuries already. my first chance to see this version in person this year and they are all hurt. i may let the boys take their GF's.

 

the only thing that worries me is his timing in the passing game. he was never used much in it before. he was not here when wiesenhunt was here to even be a little familiar with it. ben and the rest are still learning and refining it. no i don't think he knows it plenty yet. this takes time. add the passing game part and he needs reps. this is to bad. we went from penthouse to .... well a nice bathroom anyway. we keep this up and mendy will be the healthiest back we have. or will johnson will show us what he can do from the FB spot. this is unreal. stop with the injuries already. my first chance to see this version in person this year and they are all hurt. i may let the boys take their GF's. [/quote:1wu4zyc7]
The part about him not being used much in the passing game... I'm not sure what you mean. Yeah, he didn't line up at WR very often (but occasionally he did). Yeah, he didn't get a lot of RB screens, but none of our RBs did because we didn't run them. But he was our primary 3rd down back for large chunks of the season last year, so he has about as much experience there as you could hope for.

Of course he needs reps. They all do. Everybody does. I'm not saying they should take a vacation. But you have to weigh the risk. Did he really need reps so badly to practice before the second preseason game on an injured groin?? We're not in a playoff run here. We shouldn't have hobbled guys running around getting every rep available in the preseason. I don't think I need to say why. How many reps do you suppose that decision cost him? I guess we won't know until he comes back. And it was all for what? To get the timing down on screens? Please. He's a professional running back with good instincts, body control, hands, and experience as a shotgun back. He could do that in his sleep. That'd be like having our new holder -- a wide receiver -- rush back to practice to get those holding reps in, despite the 2nd degree burns on his hands. All for the 2nd week of preseason. He could've just waited a few weeks, but he needed the reps. Or, as PWP would argue, it will inspire the troops. Call me old-fashioned but I think they should have waited for him to be healthy before playing him.

 

Honestly when I think about it I wouldn't be surprised if Haley used Rainey alot more. I'm just saying that because of how much he used Dexter McCluster when he was in KC. But who knows? This story does dishearten me though.

 

this is what you said. the whole preseason. he needs reps it's a NEW OFFENSE. how would you expect him to be up to speed by game one without it? i don't care if he was 3rd,4th,5th down back last year. it's a NEW OFFENSE. it looks like we will be throwing those screens , oh and swing passes, and who knows what else alot. he didn't have to worry much about that with BA, while he's been a professional RB. it's a NEW OFFENSE. i never once said he needs to practice today on it, but to sit out the rest of the preseason and walk in and start over another guy, that's had the reps, will not work well, because it's a new offense. don't pat yourself on the back to much for being right, because it's a new offense and he needs reps. and i'm saying this in the nicest way my friend. :hello:

 

Yeah gotta agree here while i think red has the potential to be a full time feature back hes not there yet and with a new o in place he needs to be out there. He needs to get the rythm of it and the feel for it. Knowing it and executing it are two totally different things that goes for wallace as well

 

I also said that it wasn't nothing, and he was obviously injured for real. I rephrased it with something like, "Even if it's just a minor injury, there's no reason to rush back. Regular season is what's important." And did you miss the part where he re-injured himself?

Hey, wait a minute, don't we have a new offense? Yeah, I know. It's my opinion you are putting waaaay too much importance on that. It's not a new sport, it's a new playbook. It's new terminology. And he's been working in this NEW OFFENSE for months already. He can still take mental reps. No duh the fewer reps he gets, the better. But even if he's only out a weak or two with this new injury, it could have been a lot worse. Stressing a minor injury is how you get big injuries. I'm not psychic, I just knew that already. I weighed the likelihood of him re-injuring himself (possible) against the likelihood of him going out against Denver and making mental errors (unlikely in my opinion). I weighed the size of the deal it would be if he got a serious injury (big deal) with if he messed up a screen week 1 (not that big a deal, plus I still think it's unlikely). It was a no-brainer to me. I'm sure PWP was right that Red was trying to tough out the pain. But that doesn't make it smart.

 

but that's football. most guys are hurting after 3 weeks of camp. some guy's want to be that iron man. ben at least sat out practices last year, but those missed reps hurt him come game day. it did show. i'm not saying it's right or wrong for him to try, but there have been so many injuries and new formations put in, he needs the work with the first team. i could see if he's down a week, ok, but he can't sit to long. as good as he is he's still pretty young as a feature back in a new offense.

 

I doubt that Redman was going to last the entire as a starter with his running style. He likes to fight for extra yards which leaves him open to multiple hits. RB's that can last an entire season and withstand the pounding of bigger, stronger, and faster defensive players are becoming rare.

 

Hell, Bettis was damn near in a wheelchair on Mondays after games.

 

I commend Red for trying to work thru the pain, I do know this
from watching the Steelers for about 40 years that they appreciate players
that will play thru injuries. I have a real problem with players that will not.
The Steelers usually get rid of these types and fairly quickly. So to all you young
players aspiring to make the Steeler(greatest team on the planet) roster you better be
able to play thru injuries or your ass will be outta of here QUICKLY.

 

I agree with this bft .. Rainey was already going to be part of their scheme and now with Redmans injury you will see more action from Rainey. This kid is really doing well and proving to the coaches he has a motor, good hands

Bman

 

but that's football. most guys are hurting after 3 weeks of camp. some guy's want to be that iron man. ben at least sat out practices last year, but those missed reps hurt him come game day. it did show. i'm not saying it's right or wrong for him to try, but there have been so many injuries and new formations put in, he needs the work with the first team. i could see if he's down a week, ok, but he can't sit to long. as good as he is he's still pretty young as a feature back in a new offense. [/quote:mbyd4fty]

Certain injuries you don't mess with Mac. That said, he doesn't practice without the green light from Tomlin so he either didn't think it was too serious or he thinks along the same lines as you do. I'm thinking it's the later because he seems to be willing to let guys go out there even if body parts were falling off He's definitely old school.[/quote:mbyd4fty]


first off , is he hurt or injured? this first happened almost 2 weeks ago. he has practiced since and played in a game and practiced after that game. it happened during friday night lights. if he could go all that time i'm sure he felt he could do it wed. at practice. so, i'm thinking and it seems like the staff, and red were thinking, he's hurt and not injured. i saw somewhere and i'll try to find it, but it wasen't his groin that got injured but a hip. this is not good then. but it is a big difference in throwing an injured player out on the practice field as opposed to a hurt player. they all hurt right now.

 

Sorry if this was mentioned already in here. But on the way to work this morning, they played an interview from Tomlin, and someone had asked him about the Redman MRI...Tomlin replied that he knew nothing about it and that Redman shouldnt be talking to the media about any MRI's....Thats not an exact quote but I can't remember it word for word. We all know about the injury and the MRI but sounds like MT was pretty PO'd that Redman himself announced the injury.

 

Oh. I thought it came from him dragging three ravens defenders into the end zone on a chilly night in Baltimore that, in essence, sealed the division title for us, gave us home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, and helped us get to Super Bowl XLV.

Or maybe it's his ability to pick up extra yards after contact, picking up first-downs in short-yardage situations, or being able to find the end zone in goal-line situations where Mendenhall was at his worst.

All, by the way, in those things you referred to as "games."

Since you posted a pointless comparison between Redman's stats and Toby Gerhart's stats (lost as to the purpose of this comparison), why don't you post Redman's performance as a STARTER (not stats compiled as a short-yardage back which, OBVIOUSLY, will see a lower ypc average). How about starting with a performance in the PLAYOFFS? How about 17 carries for 121 yards. That's over SEVEN YARDS PER CARRY.

But . . . he's . . . "unproven" . . .

 

LOL :lolsign: :goodpost:

 

I completely agree!

 

Just posting the most recent story I found about this...
http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/242 ... 60000-game
Apparentley, Redman is taking Tomlin/ the Front office`s words to heart, and not revealing anything more about it.
I can understand that, as a team, we don`t want to give any more specifics away, than we have to...
But that makes it very frustrating as a fan, trying to get news about how your team`s players are doing health-wise.
Thank God, I`m not into fantasy football, or this would probably drive me even crazier, league-wide!!!
Good job, by Redman, to listen to his coach, that told him to shut the hell up, and, probably a good move, from the coach`s standpoint, to not disclose anything more than the league requires.
It just makes it frustrating as a fan, to know what the true health of our team is.
I`m sure there are legal issues involved, too, like when we use the phrase "concussion-like symptoms", instead of just admitting the player got his bell rung...
or how teams could hide behind " doctor/patient" priveledge, like the doctor is a lawyer, or something, and medical records are "classified" personal information...
Fine, and Dandy... I just wanna know how my favorite team`s players are doing physically.
If they have a sprained knee, broken bones, or whatever. I am not asking to know personal things like std`s, mental health issues, or whatever.
I think it`s funny that the basis of the "injury report", is basically so Vegas can adjust their betting lines accordingly...
And you have coaches like Belicheat, who will either list every, single, minor injury, in an attempt to hide the serious ones, or just lie, and say, "Nope, everyone`s fine. Nothing to report here"...
What a joke! I just want to Know if my guys are relativeley healthy enough to play the game or not.
But it has turned into something on the level of "Spy vs. Spy", international espionage, to find out if someone is too hurt to play the game.
I guess I can understand it, to the degree, that a defense will target a wounded player`s body part, if they play, but that just is, and always has been a part of the game!