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Real options for Bryant situation

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by WWW, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. MadtownDruankard

    MadtownDruankard Well-Known Member

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    If you trade him it only fuels others to do the same. It supports the idea that a player can act completely selfish and get there way . The Steelers and every other team should not give in. It’s not just about Bryant. The team should suspend him. Bryant’s not going to win that fight.
     
  2. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Make him inactive this week, see if that gets his attention? if he continues his rant,

    trade him and get as much as you can for him. This guy is not playing with a full deck.
     
  3. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I got the update on my phone which I am glad about as I don't want to see him traded but you never know what the truth really is. The Steelers aren't going to come out and say.....yeah MB has been a distraction so we want to move him! That would put the Steelers at a disadvantage when it comes to his value.

    Shephard would be nice but no way the Giants would do that especially knowing one more time MB is bye bye. I just feel they are a great match for us if we were talking trade, another solid organization with a vet QB in his last few years trying to make that one last run....next year! lol
     
  4. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    I don't think so if he was playing at the level he was 2 years ago no matter what his past someone would take a chance. People said the same thing about Bell and look how much he turned down from us this year and how much he is gonna get. The best thing for us is for him to get his play back and during draft time maybe get a 3 for him. IMO someone will give a 3 if not a 2 if he gets back to form.......
     
  5. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Good point but let's say you trade him to someone like the Clowns.....isn't that punishment instead of reward? I am not trying to be funny but to get traded from the Steelers a team to make the playoffs and a shot at the super bowl as compared to the clowns who look at winning 2 games as a success is bad. It don't have to be the Clowns use any bad team, my point is depending on where you get traded to could be more of a punishment.
     
  6. JAD

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    I like what Ray from Pgh Post Gazette said, put he on IR for mental issues, but dont trade him or waive him.
     
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  7. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I don't often drink...but I'm starting to. Site Admin

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    It didn't come across to me as Bryant complaining about a lack of help. I took it more as a statement that he bootstrapped -- cleaned up, worked out, kept himself in football shape (relatively), did the counseling, did the community service, did all the constant piss-tests, etc. etc. -- on his own. Yeah, he made that situation to begin with ... but you can't deny the significant and sustained effort it's taken to get from March 2016 to August 2017.

    (I'll take the depression report as true until proven otherwise.) Depression runs in my family. It's not "I'm sad", as stand-up comedians like to caricature. Depression manifests in different ways -- some are sad, some listless/apathetic, some angry, ... And it is not squared away by just taking a pill every morning. Meds are something of a crap-shoot, each drug coming with its own particular profile of "help" and negative side effects. And sometimes, a drug that's working just peters out after several months, so back on the meds wheel you go. Couple all that with the isolation of his suspension (i.e., loss of his support network, so he has to fall back on God-know-who from his personal life), and that's a tough row to hoe.

    I hope the dude gets his life together, returns, and is a force for the Steelers for as long as he cares to play.
     
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  8. The Sodfather

    The Sodfather Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, didn't mean to make light of a serious situation, but the drama does get frustrating, thus the genesis of my rant. It comes also from the added anguish that if Bryant can find the strength within to work out his issues, he can be an indelible asset to the Steelers offense
     
  9. Thor

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    In mine as well, and this is an accurate description.
     
  10. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    I`m seeing headlines that we have no desire to trade him, that we have invested a lot in him, etc. That is just good posturing, that any bidder has to pay up, not make a low ball offer. There is an Oct 31 trade deadline coming up. We will see. I hope we trade him and get value in return.

    Hey, we could use a TE right now. I hope there is a team with depth at TE and needs a receiver and we make that trade.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Both responses in this post should be framed and winner ribbon pinned to it. :applaud:
     
  12. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    It wouldn’t be a punishment if he gets 10 targets a game and gets to build up stats. More than anything this is about his 2019 free agency payday.
     
  13. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I agree on all counts. The seemingly cancerous behavior can be (likely is) a manifestation of his depression. The impetus driving this behavior to the forefront could be his hard work not paying off in the type of contributions that will net him a big payday in 2019.

    The hard work shows in his blocking. It’s really improving, and he genuinely tries to clear a path for his teammates. He is staring a contract year in the eyes, and his teammates are getting the touches even though he is working hard and likely has the most raw ability of them all. My guess is that’s how he sees it (though it’s just a guess).
     
  14. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Demoted to scout team and isn’t playing Sunday.
     
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  15. PWP

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    I saw the demotion I didn't see the not plating part.

    Where you see the not playing part ?
     
  16. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    Take a breath... it’s ok, they benched him for the week and it’s up to him to change. All teams deal with disgruntled players and try to keep things internal. This goes back to Lambert throwing fits and holding out. They wern’t lying to you, they are doing public relations stuff that all organizations do. Trust me, Colbert is running this part of the show.
     
  17. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I don't often drink...but I'm starting to. Site Admin

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    No problem, Sod. Sorry if my post had a bitchy tone — definitely not my intent.
     
  18. The Glory Days

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    Don't want to argue with you about this. But the players aren't paid to be public relations specialists. If they are covering up, that's bad. My rant is not about Bryant. My rant is about an organization where the leadership is so weak that the inmates are running the asylum.

    I said yesterday that he should be deactivated. I'm glad Tomlin found his stones long enough to do what had to be done. Hopefully he likes how being a leader feels and starts doing it more often. This team will be all the better for it.
     
  19. We need a change

    We need a change Well-Known Member

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    I always kinda look at it like he has ascended to become a professional football coach, and you and I did not. So many people seem to be able to win games from the bleachers and cut other people down. They say being a leader is like being a donkey in a thunderstorm, you just have to stand there and take it. The truth is you have no idea what has transpired within that organization. Everyone says cut um all, don’t take crap, I’d make him cry like a baby. The reason players like Bryant do the things they do in public is to fire up gullible people that follow their narrative as question the leadership. Coach handled the situation, end of story. Oh and by the way, players are paid to be public relations specialists, it’s in their contracts that they must present themselves to the press.
     
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  20. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    This, exactly
     
  21. The Glory Days

    The Glory Days Well-Known Member

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    You're entitled to your opinion. I don't agree with it. And I'm entitled not to.

    By the way, the player contract does not mandate that the player make himself available to the press. That is a league stipulation in conjunction with the PFWA. The team is required to make the locker rooms available to the press after a game, and to make all players accessible. This is not a contractual obligation as any fines or penalties associated with non compliance come from the league, not the team.
     
  22. NY STEELERFAN

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    When was the last time that worked out....Pryor and how is he doing? I get what your saying but we see it all the time, the guy goes for the money usually to a crap team and then cries he wants out. I think this conversation is for nothing cause now the Steelers have made their decision and he will be sitting out. I do see a trade during draft time in his future do you?
     
  23. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think it depends on how this season unfolds. If this season goes into the tank for him, there won't be much - if any - value for him. If he breaks out and becomes a big-time playmaker again, we may prefer to keep him as a motivated player during his contract year in 2018. I think that the current course of action makes sense: sit him for a game so that he can see what it would be like to not be on the field so that can better appreciate the opportunity he has.

    I think it's going to work out OK this season. Why do I think that? Because 1) he has too much to lose by allowing this to derail his season; 2) he clearly has made an effort to be a better team player by learning how to block down field (which shows something about his character that contradicts the stream-of-consciousness on social media); and 3) the team (and his QB) understands his value and will find a way to get the ball in his hands more down the stretch. If it does work out well, wouldn't we want another season with him at < $1 million playing in a contract year?
     
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  24. shaner82

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    I truly believe that guys like Bryant would rather be a star on a losing team than play second fiddle on a winning team. He's selfish. He doesn't believe in the team concept, he believes in his own stats and nothing more.

    With that said, we can still use him. I'm a disciplinarian at heart, so I say come down hard on him like the Steelers currently are doing, then after that, give him a game where he's fully involved in the game plan. Don't force feed him the ball, but tell him to give it his all and in turn, he'll get as many snaps as Brown does. If he gets open, he'll get the ball. If not, then he's obviously not good enough to beat the DB's in the league and we're not missing much by not playing him. Unfortunately you have to feed into the egos on sports teams, at least a little bit. So make him feel wanted and included in the game plan. My guess is that he has some good games, he'll quiet down and it will make us better as a result. It's a win win. In the end, we should still look to trade him in the off season.
     
  25. shaner82

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    The difference is Pryor is pure crap. He was crap last year and he's still crap this year. Look at his PFF grades from last year, they weren't good at all. Even mediocre players have big years some times. Remember Braylon Edwards? Bryant would probably love being the star on a losing team, at least until he gets near the end of his career, then he'd probably realize how much losing sucks. He's not mature enough right not to worry about anything but his stats
     

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