Rank Steelers top WR alltime

You leave my Pirates out of it Hey we could be in first place tomorrow.

 

Because the other 6 QBs were terrible

 

When I was a kid playing backyard football we all wanted to be Roy Jefferson going out for a pass. For some reason though none of us wanted to be Dick Shiner.

 

AB was good but no championships. with a franchise QB no less.

 

He played with 6 different Qbs on the Steelers....in 11 different games(Im not even counting His rookie year), and never caught a Td from any of them. He only has one 100 yard game outside of Brady, and Ben. So in 11 games with 6 other Qbs(outside 1st ballot HOFers Ben, and Brady) he had a total of one game with one hundred yards, and 0 tds. I'd say that is disappearing. No???

 

Supposedly first ballot hall of famer QB. Lol They won nothing, 3-6 in playoffs since 2012.

 

top RB and franchise QB.

 

Some of his games were in 2012 when AB was not yet elite....In 2013 to 2018,he had only 5 games without Ben in the entire game and 3 of his games were with a complete washed Michael Vick in 2015

 

What's that say for Marino then. A whole career of that. LoL

 

Yet other Wrs were catching Tds. I promise You we didn't go scoreless. Someone mentioned Ab looked good with Landry Jones....they were wrong it was M. Bryant who looked good with Landry Jones. I've not missed a game since 1997, and I got to know that if Ben wasn't playing Ab was disappearing....everyone made excuses why, but other Wrs were catching tds at that time on the team. You bring up Vick for 3 games.....well He threw 2 tds.....guess who didn't catch either.
You Guy are getting Me wrong....I think AB was great, but like most wrs(97%) they are only as Great as the Qbs they play with.
This is why I put H. Ward ahead of AB....Ward caught passes, and Tds from any Qb You put out there. Imagine if He had Ben His whole career... instead off all the garbage Qbs He played with.

 

You are making way too much out of a very small sample size. Also, Vick limited the entire passing game because he had very little left.

Seriously, what were his statistics without Roethlisberger? How many games and who was at quarterback those days?

Edit: I answered some of my own questions. I believe that was 10 games out of his entire career as a Steeler, but three of those were his rookie season when Brown wasn't even a starter yet.

Narrowing the measure to touchdowns only makes little sense given how unpredictable receiving touchdowns can be. Brown did have two 100-yard games without Roethlisberger in his career. He definitely struggled during those three games in 2015, which I think was when Vick was playing, but that was true of the entire passing game. Three games with a washed-up, ill-prepared
Vick is just too small of a sample size to take seriously. Vick made a few exciting plays, but he threw for only 371 total yards in three starts in 2015. I'll give you this much. Brown **** the bed just like the entire team did in a loss to a bad Ravens team in one of those games.

 

Vick only played 3 of those 11 games. 11 games ,and No tds, and only one game of a hundred yards. 11 games is only 5 games short of a whole season during that time.

 

AB fit Ben perfectly, Ben fit AB perfectly. Go back and watch a clip of AB's touchdowns. Lots of them were after the original play broke down. AB ran to daylight and Ben found him. AB was also a crisp route runner and had many catches / TDs from designated routes. Him being able to do both is what separates him.

I remember last year, DJ gave up on his route while the QB still had the ball in his hands. He knew the play wasn't for him, so he gave half effort to the route. AB didn't do that. Why he didn't have success with the other QBs? Lots of reasons. The defense double teamed him and they didn't want to throw into a double team. They didn't trust themselves enough to trust AB to make a play. Ben did.

 

That isn't accurate. He had two 100-yard receiving games with Landry Jones at quarterback, one in 2015 and the other in 2016. He disappeared in the three games Vick started, but that was true of the entire passing game in those days because Vick was just that horrible. Given that tiny sample size and the fact that he did have two productive games with Jones at quarterback, it really doesn't make sense to consider that a factor.

 

So he had two games of one hundred yard with 6 different Qbs in 11 different games, and No tds. Wow that sure make a difference. LoL Also I sure hope You are not counting the one Ben didn't start in ,but finished.....because that would as you say.....be very very misleading.

 

The proper response there would be to admit you made a significant factual error. When dealing with sample sizes this small, two games over 100 yards instead of one is a significant percentage. Instead, you made a false accusation against me and tried to minimize your mistake.

I'm guessing you are counting a game he started for another team when his idiocy had fully kicked in. If you would like to provide the date, team, and starting quarterback for that one, I'll consider it in the equation. If not, I'll stick to the 10 games he played as a Steeler without Roethlisberger. Speaking of misleading, you are counting three such games in 2010. Brown only played in nine games that season, starting none of them. He was targeted only 19 times, catching 16 of them, none of them for touchdowns. That doesn't illustrate a lack of production without Roethlisberger. It illustrates that he was given very few opportunities to produce as a rookie.

That leaves us with seven games worth actually evaluating, a very small sample size relative to the 121 he played for the Steelers from 2011 through 2018. (I'm leaving out that rookie season for the reasons stated above.) Three of those were with Vick, who managed only 371 yards in three starts. If you want to judge him on that rather than the bulk of his career, that is your mistake. I bet I can find some games with Roethlisberger that he disappeared, too. It happens with receivers. I bet I can find some of those with Swann, Stallworth, and Ward, too.

 

AHHA!
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POOF! He's gone.
Like i wish this thread would be.

 

You are counting the game Ben didn't start, and was the backup. How lame. LoL. No I'm not even counting His rookie season. You will even lie to try , and be correct. Lame. These are some of the Qbs He played with Charlie Batch, Byron Leftwich, Landry Jones, and Mike Vick.....11 games, and yet you keep talking about 3 games M. Vick played in.
It's simple He played in 11 game with multiple Qb , and games those Qbs played the whole game.....He had one game of 100 yards, and No tds. Do research better. The other 100 yards game You are speaking of is when Ben was a backup, and came in after Landry got hurt. You should remember it. I Love it when snowflakes disagree with the truth
. I mean what are You disagreeing with....
Those are the numbers.....do You think if You disagree it changes that. LoL. People today. LoL. Feelings over facts. Yes I'm speaking to you @Steelersfan43 Do You think disagreeing changes stats. LoL

 

List these 11 games you are talking about. That should clear things up.

No, I did not count a game that Roethlisberger did not start, but played. You are making things up again.

Here is the link to the box score from Oct. 25, 2015. Landry Jones played the entire game. Brown caught six passes for 124 yards.

Here is the link to the box score from Oct. 23, 2016. Jones played the entire game. Brown caught seven passes for 106 yards.

 

OK....I agree I missed seeing the KC game. I never have a problem admitting I was wrong. Still two games of a hundred yards out of 11(I could list more than 11 games if I counted His rookie season, but that would be unfair), and No tds. I see Heyward-Bey caught one , and Bryant got one....in those games, but no AB. If 11 games without Ben, or Brady, and He had 0 tds, and only 2 games of a hundred yards isn't enough to prove My point. I don't know what to tell You.
Outside of playing with HOF Qbs Brady, and Ben .....AB was average. Like 97% of wrs without great Qbs.

 

This is why I have Roy Jefferson rated higher than AB. Jefferson led the league in receiving with QB's like Kent Nix, Dick Shiner and Terry Hanratty throwing him the ball. If he would have played in today's pass happy league with Ben in his prime throwing him the ball he would have put up insane numbers.

 

You didn't just miss it. You insisted it was only one game repeatedly even after I told you it was two. You implied that I was lying right up until I posted the box scores. You are still claiming 11 games without providing evidence to support your dubious claim. Until you do that, I'm going to stick to the 10 games as a Steeler, which is all I know about. Of those, three were during his rookie season. It would be wildly misleading to include those given that Brown wasn't getting many opportunities that season, with or without Roethlisberger. So now you've got a tiny sample size of seven games out of 121 that he played with the Steelers outside of that rookie season. Of those seven, he was over 100 yards twice. Of the remaining five, three were in an offense with a passing game hobbled by an ill-prepared and washed up Michael Vick at quarterback.

By the way, another of those games was in 2011 against the Rams with Charlie Batch at quarterback. This was Brown's second year, when he started making an impact, but wasn't into his prime yet. No receiver went over 100 yards that day. No receiver caught a touchdown pass.

The following season, he played one game with Batch at quarterback. Batch threw one touchdown that day, which went to Heath Miller. Brown was returning to the lineup after being inactive for three games with an ankle injury and wasn't terrible, catching five passes for 58 yards. Were they supposed to focus on a receiver coming off an injury when they still had Wallace, Sanders, and Miller to throw to?

You won't post links to support your claim. You tried pushing false information and repeatedly implied that I lied when I didn't. Even with that misleading approach, you still haven't come close to supporting your claim.

 

LoL. You are funny. Whatever You say. Everything I said is there if Care to look it up. I'm not doing it first You... So just because nobody caught a tds it's ok that AB didn't. I guess if everyone jumps off a bridge its OK if you do??? LoL. I've heard How awesome He was....so if nobody else caught a td shouldn't His awesomeness have???
You just proved My point. 97% of Wrs are made by their Qbs. He did awesome with Great Qbs(Ben, and Brady), and was average with others. Thank You for proving My point.

 

Wow, Ju Ju at #6? Not even in my top 10. Overrated

 

You are the one making the claim, one that is clearly dubious given your attempt to pass off false information as the truth even after I corrected you. I can only conclude that the information you are presenting is false this time, too.

The bridge thing was a poor analogy even by your low standards.

No, I'm not proving your point and you clearly can't do it. The only thing you have proven is that you can't be trusted to approach this discussion honestly. That was demonstrated when you resorted to gaslighting.

A seven-game sample proves absolutely nothing. Really, it's five games, because his last two games as a Steeler without Roethlisberger were better than average. Given the context I presented for those five games, it is clear that your claim doesn't hold up.