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Raiders Player Being Investigated For Taunting A Police Dog At Heinz Field

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TerribleTowelFlying, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. fanforlife

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    I think you are 110% right on. There has been a lot of progress in that area but there is still a long way to go!
     
  2. Coastal Steeler

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    Let the dog bite him on the azz and then bubba will stretch his azzhole for many many years
     
  3. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I'm not trying to defend the Raiders player and he shouldn't have did it to begin with but this is probably something that is being blown way out of proportion. At least in this forum anyways.
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Sure sounds like you are. I just dont really get the point of a post like this. To each their own I guess.
     
  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Tell the player to offer up an apology for his immature misbehavior and promise not to do it again and be done with it at that point. Sounds like a complete waste of tax payer money to pursue it any further than that. What are they gonna do? Prosecute the player for the same type of actions that he endures himself every Sunday from fans in the stands? Sounds hypocritical to me. I could see differently if he assaulted the dog physically but taunting? Give me a break.:rolleyes:
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Like BFT said, police dogs are cops, the law sees this as no difference as if he was menacing the female officer instead. He should get a slap on the wrist because you find the law silly?

    And that analogy was really bad :facepalm:
     
  7. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    You're right. She should have tazed him on site, slapped hand cuffs on him and thrown him in the county jail for barking at her partner in a very controlled environment. We could then be entertained by the ensuing lawsuit.
     
  8. Steelcop

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    I handled two dogs (Neither were bomb) and it's idiotic for an adult who is supposed to be a professional to taunt any dog let alone a police dog. Police dogs are highly trained an are alpha males and females. They are taught to deal with all kinds of situations but not like humans. Dogs react to animation, ie movements, loud sounds like yelling and they do not cower when confronted by a threat. From what I read and listened to it sounds to me like he was threatening/challenging the dog and luckily for him she didn't release him. We do not have a taunting law for police dogs here but I like the idea for sure. A felony might be a severe crime for what he did so I'm guessing if charged it might be a misdemeanor, keeping in mind I do not have any experience on the east coast and how there courts work.
     
  9. Steelcop

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    Se mentioned that her dog was cross trained for bombs and general which is protection work (Biting).
     
  10. Steelcop

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    Blast most people have no idea how bad it is for us.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Things have changed a lot, getting harder and harder for you guys to do your job.
     
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  13. Steelcop

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    What it really means is we are a lot less likely to take chances and that lets criminal get away with more. That hurts the public but that is the time we are in right now in America.
     
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  14. Bleedsteel

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    Not sure exactly what I wanna say here, so here goes...

    REALLY stupid move on the Fader`s player`s part...:facepalm:


    Somehow seems appropriate, that his first name was "Ray-Ray"...:hmm:

    ...(Lewis-Rice?)...

    Anyhow...

    I still think she should have "turned the dog loose ", on Vick...

    And he plays on a team, where Ben contributes to police dog funding all over the country...

    Yeah, more than a little irony there...

    The whole "dog" thing, touches a sore spot around here, and rightfully so...

    I will pretty much stay out of this, other than to say I wish the dog`s handler would have turned him loose, on the "percieved threat"...

    That probably would have led to worse headlines/lawsuits, and bad P.R., on PITTSBURGH`S side...

    Than the handler doing her job professionally, as she did..

    I`m glad she showed more restraint, than I would have.

    Not sure that the courts should have to get involved in something this petty, and juvenile,...

    But I guess that`s where we are at as a country, right now, and I hope he gets a bigger fine/punishment than the league would levy...

    Hey, wait a minute?
    Isn`t his conduct "detrimental to the league??"...

    SIC `EM RODGE!!!!:goodellsucks::aikido::butcher::mad::rant::rules:
     
  15. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense from that perspective - if they're trained to react to that, by taunting them like the Raider fool did, he's making the handlers job difficult, as well as putting himself at risk.
     
  16. jeh1856

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    I'll give a prime example of this. The small desert town my wife was from had a police chief, an officer and a K9 officer. The officer was suspended for some violation. The chief then was fired for not paying child support. At the next town meeting it was pointed out that by default, the dog was now technically the chief of police. Not sure if they bothered to fix this or if they left well enough alone. :)
     
  17. shaner82

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    There's a difference between an attack/guard dog and a drug sniffing dog. This particular dog would very likely not be trained to sniff drugs. Also, although they are well trained, they are trained to follow commands, not ignore stimulus. Even a well trained dog will still react to someone who appears to be acting in a threatening manner. I've handled attack dogs in my job before. You're still dealing with an animal, even if it is well trained.
     
  18. TerribleTowelFlying

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    Good point. I used to be friends with a deputy who was in the narc unit. Once in a while we'd catch up outside his truck for a few minutes with the K-9 in the back. Sometimes the dog would bark non-stop like he wanted me for lunch. Other times he'd just sit and stare at me. I guess my point is- in the end- the dog is a dog, well trained or not. Some days he's going to be more protective or easily agitated, and other days he's not going to want to "play". They're not Buckingham palace guards. :lolol:
     
  19. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    As to letting it go or not pressing charges- he did something dumb that was against the law. People do dumb stuff that's against the law everyday and most all of them are charged. Why should he be any different?
     
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  20. thorn058

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    I will defer to you and Steelcop having no experience in the matter.
     
  21. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    silly actions from a player
    young and dumb and full of
    sure there are many people on this MB who messed with a dog at sometime
    sure some would here would like to turn the firehose on the player too
    butt hey
    corporations are people too.
    soo

    blown out of proportions
    non story non issue

    what ever happened to our coach who attacked a fan?
     

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