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Rahim Moore Fined For Hit On Sanders

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TerribleTowelFlying, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    Did you feel the same way about Ryan Clark's hit on Welker?
     
  2. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Why would you choose a very hit to compare? :shrug: There are some very different factors between the two at critical points. The specifics being: In Clark's hit, the ball was still in the air and the play going on. In Moore's, the ball had already bounced once, right in front of Moore, and had almost bounced again. Clark did not hit Welker anywhere near the head. Moore hit his head dead on. It's a bogus comparison.

    Seems like you're more out to keep people's "black and gold glasses" in check more than you are making a fair point.
     
  3. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    The one thing I've always said about the whole "he endangers others" argument about James Harrison or any other player that like to play rough is this. Isn't James Harrison also endangering himself? If that's how he chooses to play the game then so be it. I think the physical consequences he will suffer later far outweigh the financial consequence anyway. Remember that play a few years ago where Ryan Clark drilled Willis McGahee? They were BOTH laid out. So if there's a play where both guys are down like that will they still issue a fine only to the guy who does the hitting?
     
  4. HugeSnack

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    How is it he even hits Sanders at all? He had so much time, if he really felt like it he could have avoided all contact 100%. You're telling me that from 3-4 yards away (when it was clear Sanders had dropped the ball), helmet to helmet contact was already imminent? His entire body clearly changes direction at the last second towards Sanders. I don't care if he turns his head to the side. He delivered that blow by choice. Late, and to the head.
     
  5. thorn058

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    I am going to agree with the thought of equal application across the board for all teams but you know that isn't going to happen especially since they already have lumped every infraction Harrison ever had into a broad category of pattern of behavior even though none of his infractions has ever happened more than once. Add to that the double standard that seems to be applied to members of other teams such as Dummerville not being suspended even though it was his umpteenith run in with the law. Yes I know as a Broncos fan I work with point out the charges were dropped or he was never charged but hey then again neither was Ben so if they apply the embarrassing the shield rule he should have at least gotten 3 games by now. So it is never going to be what we want it to be.
     
  6. shaner82

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    Come on, they're pretty similar hits. Clark's hit on Welker was "late." Welker had already reached for the ball, and then pulled his hands back in because the ball was nowhere near him. I can't stand hypocrisy and that's all this is. Both hits are technically illegal, but I have no problem with either.

    It's like when James clearly smashed Colt McCoy in the head, this site was filled people calling BS on that penalty and suspension. It's hypocrisy, which I can't stand. The league isn't out to get the Steelers.
     
  7. Myronwemissyinz

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    Thats a ball Sanders should have caught. Moore was anticipating the catch.He had one step to pull up.And I think he did as much as he could in one step.

    How would all the STEELER homers feel if Ike,Troy or Ryan were fined on a hit like this?

    Its football people(God included).LET THEM PLAY!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    LOL, oh he should have caught it, all bets are off, open season on a receiver who doesn't catch balls he SHOULD have. Moore had time to sit down and have a picnic, don't give me he didn't have time garbage. And our guys do get fined for hits like this! Have you no interest in equality at all?????
     
  9. Myronwemissyinz

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    I do!! Moore should NOT have been fined and neither should our guys for a hit like this. Does God have a agenda in regards to #92?Yes I think so. Do we want it to continue towards 24,25 and 43?? No.

    That was a good football play!! #88 should have caught the ball !! He is fair game after that!! Within reason.

    Within reason???? What happened to my fathers football???

    Its a violent game!!!!...Live with it!!!!
     
  10. HugeSnack

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    Classic Shaner! Pat yourself on the back for being an unbiased fan all you want, but that doesn't make you right. Clark's hit might have been "quotation mark late", but the play was still alive when he connected. Welker actually never reached for the ball at all, because it was tipped before it got to him. Did Clark need to hit him? No. Does he have the right to? Yes. The ball could have been intercepted or something. Welker should have protected himself, and he knows that now.

    Both hits were NOT technically illegal, because Clark's hit was technically legal! Where is the hypocrisy there??

    1. Clark hit him after a tip, but before the ball hit the ground. It's hard to say how much Clark could see, since the ball was tipped up in the air in a different direction, but his timing was fine. Moore delivered his blow after he watched the receiver drop the ball on the ground.
    2. Clark hit him right square in the torso, nowhere near the head. Moore hit helmet-to-helmet.
    3. Clark made a legal hit, and he was not fined for it. Mike Pereira came out afterwards and said it was a clean hit. So did Welker. Moore made an illegal hit, which not even you are arguing.

    So yeah, I don't see any hypocrisy at all, because they are not even close to the same thing. If you ask me, the people who make these decisions are looking at it the same way you are, and that's the whole problem. They see Clark nearly break Welker into two separate people and go, "Oh my god that's a dirty illegal hit." Why bother to get it right, right? There are plenty of things to complain about when it comes to the Steelers and their fans. I've never understood those that feel the need to make up new things.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's a violent game? I did not know that, thank you for clearing that up for me :facepalm: The games changed Myron, I don't like it either but adapt or get left behind. That was a fine in todays football, our guys get called for those hits all the time and if we do, then so should everyone else. I know that sounds tit for tat but tough ****, if they are going to take away the strength of our team then I don't want other teams having an intimadation level over us.
     
  12. HugeSnack

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    Tomlin_Era's right about this one. Myron, football speed is different from regular speed. The amount of time that passed between Sanders dropping the ball and Moore hitting him was a looong time. The last replay is perfect. From the moment the ball leaves Sanders' hands, all of Moore's movements are calculated to move towards Sanders and deliver a hit. There's no evidence he didn't want to make that hit. All the evidence points the opposite way. His body changes to account for Sanders' changing body. He tracks him down and hits him. Just because his head turned at the last second, that doesn't mean he was letting up. If he didn't want to hit him, he could have done just about anything and he wouldn't have hit him. He made sure he did.
     
  13. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    This is how I see it as well. He moves his body towards Sanders. He has three strides to turn off course, but he does the opposite. I am against reffing from the corporate TV room in general. Especially when there aren't penalties on the field (obviously that's not in this case). Unfortunately, the era of football most of us love so much is on it's way out in that regard. The last few years have shown us how fine happy the league is, especially where hits to the head are involved. I'm surprised he wasn't fined more honestly, because he has a prior fine for a similar hit on a defenseless receiver. He even admitted it was his mistake in an interview yesterday.
     
  14. Lizard72

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    Don't see how there's any argument here. Clearly had plenty of time to pull up.
     

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