QB2 Battle

You’re absolutely correct. It’s like a mental block with some fans regarding certain players. Example: Bud Dupree could never do anything right in some fans eyes. Every sack TJ got was well earned, but Bud’s were all unblocked easy sacks. Some fans can’t get past a players draft position and their expectations based on that.
If Edmunds is drafted in the 3rd round most aren’t constantly complaining about him.
Players don’t choose where they’re drafted. The team does. Be mad at the team.

 

Mason has played with and against starters. His role as well as other preseason starters is to play a tightly scripted game plan to give everyone game experience outside of practice. Haskins and Dobbs came in against 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers who may not make the roster, but the game plan is opened up just to see what potential there may be for that diamond in the rough. I as well as others would like to see what Haskins can do with a start over Mason. If Mason plays with and against these long shot players and lights it up, is everyone going reverse their opinion on the Haskins/Mason debate? The even bigger question is when Ben comes in and can't lead the 1st teamers across the goal line or has a 3 and out, is everyone going to start clamoring about how badly Ben sucks?

 

How many passes did he have batted down at the line of scrimmage?

 

That is a possibility. Also, like I said what if Ben doesn't light it up either. I would have to look for the stat, but I believe Ben lead the league in 3 and outs last year (even during the 11-0 run). Our defense is the only thing that kept that intact last year. The games following, everyone realized Ben's weakness and dared him to throw long.

 

That "right" decision only cost them one game, which ended up being the difference between making the playoffs and missing them.

Dobbs really didn't get to play much, but he managed to squeeze in a terrible interception.
In the end, the only real value the team has gotten from him was in stealing a draft pick from the Jaguars. I guess it is possible they could make the mistake of believing he can play again, but it doesn't seem to be heading in that direction.

 

That throw was 20+ yards, might have even been 30. If memory serves, and it sometimes doesn't, it was actually 33 yards. I could be off some, but it wasn't intended to be a short throw. It was a go route and DJ had a step. There was safety help over the top, but the safety was out of position and almost trailing, even though he had a good angle. He might have been able to keep DJ from scoring, but he wasn't in position to contest the pass, and neither was the DB in coverage. Mason, who's claim to fame is his deep ball, didn't go deep. He underthrew the pass and DJ adjusted, almost twisting his ankle in the process. Maybe we're thinking of different plays, but 20+ yard completions are rarely ever "pitch and catch."

 

Haskins is still very rough around the edges. The botched handoff....and I remember 2 poorly thrown passes that should have been INT'ed. He has a good arm and seems accurate most of the time.

With all of this said Haskins has more upside than Dobbs, but Rudolph is definitely more efficient in the Steelers offense when the OL is not a clown show.

 

The only defense that Dobbs needs on his behalf is limited reps, it's hard to play without practice reps for most guys so I am sure the Coaches are keeping that in mind .. He will get most of the Panther game with most of the plays he likes and if stellar he can still make this roster ..

How would our other 2 QB'S look if they had the same number of practive reps Dobbs has had? I am not defending his bad throw just that it is kind of to be expected IMO..

 

You have 2 ask Yourself....Why then are they not giving Him the reps???

 

Also it wasn't a bad throw...It was a bad decision. He had bad throws ...like one that had 2 be practically dug out from the turf. That pick just happened not 2 be one.

 

I forget the exact cut dates, but I think it's a 3 cut this year. First to 85, then 75, then 53. The PS will still be 16 this year ( with expanded vets allowed) so this gives some breathing room for bubble guys. Sure they can be poached, but unless someone is lights out they still should be safe on the PS

 

I don't understand how with an extra game, teams don't get more Guys 2 dress on Game day , and a bigger roster.....period

 

I cannot find the article and I may be wrong on this, but after he was signed the writer said there is some kind of option on that contract. I think Haskins could walk without compensation for the Steelers, but the team has a right to match. Like I said may be wrong on the details.

 

There is that provision to dress 2 more players on GameDay, one being an Ol, and you can protect 2 ps players..but only those players 2 times. I would like to see 60 on the roster...period. but that would mean all players making minimum (at least) against the cap..and thus less money to be spread out. In terms of payout it really would not mean that much more, in terms is pension it could as PS players do not accrue active time toward future bennies.

 

Thanks . I didn't know about the 2 more players on game day. I also agree with would like 2 see 60 on the roster.

 

I think we can put an original round tender on him and any team would have to give us a 1st to sign him. In other words, no one else will sign him. Pretty sure the original round tender is pretty cheap, too.

 

I just checked Sportrac...you're right, he's a restricted free agent in 2022 and an unrestricted free agent in 2023

 

Dobbs didn't leave with a lead. Ben left the game at halftime with a 14-10 lead. That remained the score until about 9 minutes left in the game when the Raiders scored to go ahead 17-14. Tomlin had no choice but to put Ben back in the game because Dobbs was 4 for 9 for 24 yards and a pick. He had a QB rating of 12 for the game.
Ben then took the Steelers on a long time consuming drive that ended with a TD pass to Juju with under 3 minutes left to play. The defense then had a major collapse allowing the Raiders to score with 21 seconds to go to take the lead 24-21. The drama wasn't over yet has Ben hit Juju for a 60 yard gain down the sideline to set the Steelers up for a FG to tie the game. However Boswell slipped and fell as he tried to kick the ball and time expired. Ben on the day was 25 for 29 for 282 yards, 2 TD's and no picks. He had a passer rating of 130.2. Tomlin took a lot of heat for not installing Ben in the game earlier because Dobbs was so ineffective.

 

In the one you live in, the Raiders took the lead while Dobbs was in the game, forcing Tomlin to put Roethlisberger back in the game. It had become clear the Steelers had no shot to win that game without taking that risk due to the ineptitude of Dobbs. He was out of his depth and it showed, an outcome that was predictable from the moment the Steelers made the mistake of going without a viable backup quarterback for that season.

 

He is getting those limited reps for a reason. He's the worst quarterback on the roster, which tells you just how crappy of a player they have in Dobbs. Give Colbert tremendous credit for conning a team into trading for him once.

 

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