QB Questions

1. Do you think Dobbs is our long term answer if he develops correctly? If not, do you see potential in other QB's in the upcoming drafts?

2. What is Jones's future with the Steelers once Ben retires or if Dobbs climbs up the depth chart?

 

Dobbs is certainly not the long term answer at QB, Art Rooney II said so after the draft.

 

I think they will both be competing for the backup QB spot behind whoever they draft or sign as a free agent to be the starter after Ben is done.

 

1. No, Dobbs is not the long term answer. Good quarterback draft in 2018. Stay tuned for that.

2. Stopgap, interim quarterback until we find our next franchise QB. Dobbs will not overtake Jones on the depth chart.

Other questions?

 

There is talent in this draft for sure, do they pan out? Who knows. Dobbs is not the answer regardless of PWP's fascination with him and as a self professed Xs and O's guys he should know as much. Not saying Dobbs couldn't be pretty decent but the signs point to probably not gonna be a franchise QB. I hope they can develop him into the next big thing but I doubt it.

Landry is what he is and I doubt that improves if he's the week in week out guy either. The draft will be interesting in the QB regard and I hope Ben lets me know if he's out or all in, as that will play a big part in their draft board plans. Ben still got it and barring injury could have it another couple seasons.

 

Ben goes down season over

 

"if he develops correctly'', why not? I guess it depends on what that means.

2018 draft will be loaded with QB prospects, according to the experts.

Jones is signed thru 2018. If he doesn't see the field between now and then, it's hard to say how he will do in free agency. Maybe Steelers extend his contract next season.

If Dobbs earns the #2 spot, Jones probably becomes expendable.

 

Since it will be very hard to move up in the draft, our best option is to get Cousins who wants out of Washington and to play with a winner.

 

I'm not sure how some of you have already concluded Dobbs is or is not the answer. Way too early to tell where he will pan out at in my opinion. I guess you could make an educated guess, but man that is tough at this stage. Glad all I have to do is watch the product on the field!

 

One thing is for sure, he wont be a Carson Wentz, we can settle for scraps but we need to find a wentz in this draft or it's going to be a long dry spell before we see the playoffs again, and we dont have a coach on this staff like doug pederson that can develope a rookie QB anyway ....

 

hard to say but i hope not at this point because of what we already have here as other position players. his growing time as a starter will take away the years of the already established stars on this team. we are way over the cap for next year and many moves will be made. there will have to be trades or restructures and ben holds alot of that money hostage for us. jones may even be cut for money reasons. hard to say right now but a draft pick should be in the works i hope. kanoff from princeton may be a good starting point. it's a shame that that move would make 2 qbs smarter than the OC.

 

I dont think they save a lot of money by cutting jones, 2 years 4 mill, peanuts in cap space, they wasted that much money on a tight end that can only block but has scissor hands, they need to be bold and go after the best QB available in the 1st round even if they have to give up some picks to move up, like the eagles did here:

The Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft in a trade with the Cleveland Browns on Wednesday, the Eagles announced. The Browns will receive Philadelphia's No. 8 overall pick, a third- and fourth-round selection in this draft, next year's first-round pick and a second-round pick in 2018. The Eagles also got a conditional fifth-round pick (a compensatory fourth-rounder, if available) from the Browns next season.

Of course the rams wanted Goff bad enough to give up these picks to move up from 15 to 1 get him:

The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017).

 

I think it's hard to say what they have in Dobbs. He looked really bad early in pre-season, but got better as it went on. At least to me I think he got better.

You would have to change this offense, he is a much different QB than Ben.

If you let him make plays with his legs, and throw he could be an OK player. If you try to make him a pocket passer, I don't think you will be impressed.

 

That makes no sense, so if the Steelers draft a QB in the first round he won't be seen as Ben's successor . Art knows just like realistic fans know Dobbs isn't a long term answer at QB.

 

Even then the bolded has to contain severe circumstances in play within how the draft will shape.


Take for example this years draft. How many people really thought Malik Hooker would go outside the top 10??? Corey Davis in the top 5???


Generally speaking, talents in the top 5 are either instant impact stars to Hall of Fame Cailber. I understand that he has been injured but even then he has not showcased much in his action.

 

Even then the bolded has to contain severe circumstances in play within how the draft will shape.


Take for example this years draft. How many people really thought Malik Hooker would go outside the top 10??? Corey Davis in the top 5???


Generally speaking, talents in the top 5 are either instant impact stars to Hall of Fame Cailber. I understand that he has been injured but even then he has not showcased much in his action.

 

And you get a guy that has a fairly good percentage of not being worth the deal. There is a 67.5 percent chance he will be a starter. Of that, there is a 48.5 percent chance he would be an all pro. Making the kind of traid being talked about and not getting an allpro starter would be a really bad trade. There is a 67.3 percent chance it would be a bad trade. I don’t like those odds. Make that trade and you are screwed for years to come.

 

Hmmm.... interesting questions indeed.


1.) I cannot give you my answer currently. That alone is going to have to come next year in the pre draft process. However, early sightings of Steelers scouts who have been at Wyoming have stated otherwise indirectly.


2.) Refer to 1 based on two scenarios. They are as follows;



a.) Dobbs is "the guy" and Jones stays.



Or


b.) Dobbs is the new backup and Jones is gone; the former supplanting whomever that may be.

 

Ben is pretty much a game manager now. Can Dobbs be that ? I say yes. Dobbs showed good Improvement each game for his first NFL work . I think he has the ability to be a good NFL QB . Dobbs is a big guy and he can run ,he is also close to a 50% completion rate on deep balls from College .

No doubt in his arm strength , needs to work on foot work to get more accurate and add some weight . Work him in slow use the running game and play action .

 

Regarding Darnold, it appears that he is leaning in that direction upon returning to school.


As for the incumbents, I really would love to have Josh Allen but my god that completion percentage.....








Now Elvis... Ryan Finley on the other hand???

 

Dobbs showed me nothing in this pre-season that makes me think he will ever be a starter that can win in this league. His arm and accuracy is questionable as is his decision making which I understand is part of being young.

If Ben leaves after this season, which I believe he will, the Steelers need to find a veteran QB that can be a stop gap for 3 years or so. This team is stacked talent wise to win for the next few seasons. You don't throw that away on a hope that Dobbs can be something he isn't. I hope Smith is an option in the off season because I really believe he is a QB that can win with this talent.