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Pickens to the Raiders?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Mar 18, 2025.

  1. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    OK, we have seen CA3, Muth, and Washington...good at times, but mediocre others (talent or lousy scheme?), whatever. Wilson is nothing but an unproven 2nd year man coming off injury. Would I still trade Pickens, absolutely. As I said in another post, maybe regrets either way, if you sign him now you may get a cheaper version, but ou are still going to pay premium for 2 WR, the risk for me is just to high.
     
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  2. steelersrock151

    steelersrock151 Well-Known Member

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    So some wingnut at the 33rd team or whatever makes a post saying the Raiders should trade for Pickens, and Steelers' faithful go insane about Pickens being an ungrateful cancer. Typical response.
     
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  3. Steelvision

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    No, we need two solid receivers, we now have them. Screw trading GP. Let Tomlin and A Smith get they're heads out of their asses and get the passing game going before thinking of trading GP. Guys like him just need to be involved in the offense. Our offensive passing game wasnt scaring anyone in the latter part of the season. Tomlin and Smith get paid big bucks to make sure the offense is firing on all cylinders. GP is talented - make it work Mike.
     
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  4. Steelrules

    Steelrules Well-Known Member

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    Raiders have an elite QB?
     
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  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Bed time

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    People wanted to cut Cam when he was injured because some wing nut accused him of holding out

    People wanted to cut T J
     
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  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    don't let tom tom continue to beat the steelers. find your own pickens tommy boy. we seem to like the guys that give up on plays. we just signed thornhill. players get frustrated, fans get frustrated, you don't strengthen another team and weaken your own because of it. we would be back to our situation we had last year. a number 1 WR and no #2. why would you do that to yourself? for a 2nd round draft pick that may or may not help this team. BS. :cool:
     
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  7. BigBensBigBong

    BigBensBigBong Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking about the picture with him hanging around Brady.
     
  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    If Pittsburghs potential "contingency plan" to replace George Pickens is Jayden Higgins, I'd advise high caution against that. Never mind that Jayden will be a rookie, Pittsburgh still doesn't have a QB to throw him the football. Who's to say that Jayden won't become another Pickens in the process?!?


    I am with @mac daddyo@mac daddyo. Pickens can hint all he wants. Hold his ass here until 2026. Figure it out then.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I feel this way too but not if he doesn’t want to be here. Let’s say for arguments sake he is disgruntled that they went out and got Metcalf, because let’s face it, they didn’t bring Metcalf in to be the #2 guy. So if Pickens is feeling that way, then keeping him here is very risky. We’ve seen him quitting on plays already.

    If he’s feeling that way, see what kind of return you can at least get for him and then weigh whether the risk/reward is worth it.
     
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  10. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i think he wants extended, wants the ball so they can win, so they all seem to use these tactics to send a message. depends who he is listening to. sure we would like them to tow the perfect line but you won't always get that from every player out there. you have to find out how it's going to work with he and metcalf before you cut your losses. they would go from one of the best duo's on paper to real trouble possibly. again. :cool:
     
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  11. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    I get the thought, we now have 2 legit WR. For me it is this fix one aspect and 3 more develop strategy that constantly leaves us in mediocre land. If this team was one guy away, if this was a window year,,then of course you go after the fix. We are in a constant fill the whole with one year signings, some at the very end of their career hoping to find our way to one p/o win, then by golly we build from there. If the idea and confidence is TK and GP as a future duo, then negotiate and get him extended. If you feel having those 2 WR will help a young QB in his development, then by all means do it, draft your QB and let's go. If your strategy is to put your money into a 40 plus guy, keep the 2 wr around for a run this year, fine. How has this worked the past few years?

    I do not see the draft as a fix for any certain year, I see the reality of where we are, where we have been and we have a much bigger issue than a WR. Do you tank, of course not, but if you are serious about building a competitive team for advancement in the p/o's, you take every enquirer of a trade, see how it benefits the team and if it does you do it. Has anyone asked about GP? Have no idea, if so do I look at all the possibilities, including the long term cost of keeping him? Because at the start of the 26 year you lose him (unless you tag him which is not cheap).

    Several franchises have windows, fall for a year, and even in the rebuilding year show promise and get into a competitive window quickly, we maintain the standard, look tough, back into the p/o's, get humiliated, say change is coming, then rinse and repeat. If they sign Aaron, keep GP, then this year may include some great O moments, maybe even a p/o win! Then next spring we are again rinse and repeat mode, quit the insanity, build the franchise from the trenches out, make this team a winner.
     
  12. Formerscribe

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    This would be the Steelers letting the inmates run the asylum again. If the players don't see them as a team that will cave if a player misbehaves a little, they should. It has been a repeating pattern under Tomlin.
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    They are going to lose him in a year anyway. Highly unlikely they sign him to a second contract.

    Might as well listen to offers if he’s disgruntled.

    If he wants to be here, I’m all for keeping him, I’ve been defending him.

    Could be like Mac said though, he’s angling for an extension. Players use social media to try and leverage that.
     
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  14. Born2Steel

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    No QB is the issue. Pickens is not disgruntled with being a Steelers, he just wants aQB that can get him the ball. Not sure Geno Smith fits that or not so Raiders is an odd choice.


    According to our recent history of he asks for a trade, we will trade him. No sense in being passive aggressive on social media.
     
  15. Formerscribe

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    It could be, which is why I have an issue with moving him. All the way back to LeGarrette Blount, the message is that if a Steelers player thinks he can find a better situation, all he has to do is misbehave a little and the team will accommodate his wishes by cutting him or trading him for pennies on the dollar.
     
  16. james weyandt

    james weyandt Well-Known Member

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    so now grandma is beating off ---gaurdians--:dancing::applaud::thumbs up::laughing::confused1::confused1::confused1:
     
  17. james weyandt

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  18. 78steelers

    78steelers Well-Known Member

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    Trade him to the packers
    Packers get Pickens
    Steelers get Jayden Reed and Christian Watson

    Reed would give us a #2 wide reciever who also can return punts. He also is not a free agent until 2027
    Watson I know he is coming back from acl tear. Hopefully he could play the second half the season but if he can not his contract would roll over to 2026
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    they could franchise him for a year too. if he sits fine but it won't help him doing that. :cool:
     
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  20. Thor

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    Watson has been a medical nightmare. His ACL tear was I believe at the beginning of January, so it's doubtful he sees any time on the field in 2025.

    I only see the Packers interested in this deal if it was for something other than Reed. Them gaining Pickens by losing Reed would be about the same as us acquiring Metcalf and losing Pickens. Leaves them in the same boat.
     
  21. RichD

    RichD Well-Known Member

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    Prolly get a 3rd with a trade or wait for 3rd comp pick in 27. So just keep him .
     
  22. Draftgeek2000

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    Ultimately id go at least as low as the raiders 3rd and 6th, because they are early rd picks.. maybe lower. For those saying we're back to square one WR wise if we trade him, I disagree.. an early 3rd would get a likely solid #2.

    We assume he'll net us 3rd Rd comp a few drafts from now, but that's a long ways away, currently a late 4th maybe 5th value wise, maybe he could have blowups serious enough to not even get a 3rd comp, and toxify our season in the process
     
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  23. 78steelers

    78steelers Well-Known Member

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    I disagree it is not the the same as us losing Pickens. They have both Dobbs and Wicks. Its true Watson may not play this season but he would be available 2026 to replace Austin. Watson injury update there are encourage signs that he may be ahead of his recovery time and now is doing treadmill work
     
  24. Thor

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    Neither Dobbs nor Wicks are equal to Reed, productively or positionally. They're both 2-3" taller and ~20 lbs. heavier. Reed is a slot/Swiss army knife who has 1650 yards in two years; Wicks has 950. Dobbs has 1700 in three.

    So if the Packers got Pickens they'd get gain an X receiver, but they'd lose their dynamic slot piece.
     
  25. Rocky Mtn

    Rocky Mtn Well-Known Member

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    Is there a psychiatrist available in the first round?
     
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