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Pickens on last miss

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steel Acorn, Jan 5, 2025 at 11:49 AM.

  1. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    I got told that numerous times and got thanked for the Steelers letting him go because I have so much influence with the front office;)
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That was my one thing with Pickett is he seemed to have the clutch gene but I bet his biggest comeback win came down to luck.

    The game where he hit Harris for the winning TD, it has been stated that he was throwing it to the receiver behind Harris, most notably by Ben. The way that Harris went up and plucked that out of the air, I wouldnt be surprised if he was targeting the WR in the endzone and that pass probably isn’t completed.

    He still had other bonfire comeback wins but that one seemed to be the most “clutch” and it’s probably a mirage.
     
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  3. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    So why did you say pickens was advocating to play for other teams?
     
  4. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Where did I defend his horrible game?
     
  5. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    The media has blinded people to act one sided.
     
  6. Formerscribe

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    I do not understand why they keep wasting snaps on Patterson. Hopefully, his failures against the Bengals will put an end to that, but I'm not optimistic about Tomlin and Smith learning their lesson.

    Wilson isn't some young kid. Regardless of how the game goes, he needs to step up with the game on the line. Instead, he made one poor decision after another, then missed a wide-open Pickens for what should have been a game-winning touchdown.

    Ask yourself a simple question. If you have a two-minute drill to win the game, who do you trust more, Russell Wilson or Kenny Pickett? If you answered Wilson, try again and do it honestly this time. That is a hell of an indictment of a veteran quarterback like Wilson.
     
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  7. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    His demeanor ever since he has been drafted has been very odd. Draft day especially. You don’t have to cozy up to other teams to feel like the place you are at is not the right fit. I had a great job in a state that I did not want to be in. I still have a great job in a place I love now. Getting away from situation 1 was one of the best choices I ever made. Pickens might feel the same way.
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    That sounds like speculation from people who don't like Pickett, including Roethlisberger. How many of Roethlisberger's throws looked like luck? Even he has admitted that he thought his game-winning touchdown to Santonio Holmes in the Super Bowl was going to be intercepted when it left his hand.

    Some fans want to tear Pickett down, including making things up to take away what things he did accomplish as a Steeler, because they are angry he didn't pan out. The guy was damn good with the game on the line, but didn't do enough the rest of the time. I have two theories about this. One is that he was too reliant on perfect mechanics to throw with velocity and accuracy. He was able to focus in for certain key moments, but just couldn't maintain that all the time. The other theory is that he could have been "Fourth-quarter Kenny" all the time, but Tomlin wouldn't allow it. He over-emphasized protecting the ball, taking away Pickett's aggressiveness except when he needed to let him cut loose because the team needed a late score. I used to think it was the latter, but now I believe it was a bit of both.
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Why would Ben have an axe to grind? Watch the play, it looks like it was going to the receiver behind Harris, forget who that was but its easy to see the trajectory of the pass was to the endzone until Harris went up and got it.

    He was clutch in several come behind wins but its fair to wonder about that Harris TD.
     
  10. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Oh so you just make up stuff in your head to hate on someone. :facepalm:
     
  11. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    No. It’s called speculation which often times is derived from patterns which are very noticeable. I would love nothing more than for GP to get his head screwed on right and be a role model player, but I, personally, don’t see that happening. I’m sorry if you bought your George Pickens jersey as you may have an Antonio Brown jersey. If my intuition is correct, and I think it is. You may want to pawn it sooner rather than later.
     
  12. Robert

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    Because Muth can show some humility and say that he screwed up. Other players blame everyone else and never accept any responsibility. That is why some players are targeted and others are not. Ego.....imo
     
  13. Robert

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    They are paying him far too much to be throwing the ball to him once or twice a game.
     
  14. Robert

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    That is straight up a leadership issue. Yes, Pickens is the one causing the problem, but it's a known problem and it's one that leadership of the team should have long ago brought under control.

    Over the years, I've had the good fortune to work for some exceptionally good leaders at times. A good leader can turn the worst of people into someone you'd be proud to work with. That is not happening on the Steelers.
     
  15. WNYFAN

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    What about us who haven’t been influenced by the media?
     
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  16. Robert

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    Ben had been on the downside for years imo. But despite the fact that he was far past his prime, I have 100% confidence that Big Ben in his final year would have easily pushed us down field to give Boswell a chance under those exact same circumstances. In fact, I believe that virtually any veteran quarterback in the NFL would have taken us down the field better than Wilson did. Even some of the rookies would have. That was about as bad of a 2 minute drive as I've seen in the NFL. Absolute chaos. Horrible Play calling.
     
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  17. mikeyg

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    there is no media blinding

    No one is blinder than he who will not see.

    any brained individual can measure this clown up. Was he just PURE STONED on Sat night?
     
  18. Mashburn

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    We were discussing his career here, not his one crap game play.
     
  19. Formerscribe

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    I've seen the play often enough. We all have. It looks like it was to the guy who caught it. It is silly to wonder about that Harris touchdown, especially since the team has since given up on the guy and he doesn't even play for the Steelers any longer.

    Roethlisberger didn't like the guy who was drafted to replace him. He has also spouted off one idiotic opinion after another about the Steelers' quarterback situation. He is like Pro Football Focus. People cite him when he says something that they like.
     
  20. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    “Silly to wonder about it” lol don’t be so sensitive, Pickett isn’t your kid brother.
     
  21. Animus

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    So it's the media just making up post game fights, not running routes, refusing to block, argues with fans from the sideline, doesn't show up to games (figuratively speaking), has a sketchy scouting report that drops him down the draft board, and so on. The media is to blame. Like holy fckn sht bro. Defending the guy is ok, but blaming the media and calling people Browns bandwagon fans because they call this for what it is is asinine.
     
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  22. Steelvision

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    20 seconds. If he makes that catch they do have a chance to spike it with a couple seconds left.
     
  23. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Please don't misrepresent my aversion to nonsense as an emotional reaction. I was using a non-confrontational term to address your claim that it was fair to wonder. No, it really isn't because the evidence doesn't back up that idea.
     
  24. SGSteeler

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    I thought it was 11 seconds? Russ really hosed us running instead of throwing it out of bounds there late. I think we rushed the play after (the one he got sacked on), and had he thrown it away we might've had a different outcome on that one being able to huddle and call something. Just my opinion though.
     
  25. Formerscribe

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    There were 11 seconds on the clock when the play ended. Maybe it was 12 seconds when the ball hit his hands. He still likely had to run a few yards to get close enough, then give himself up. His teammates had to run into position, get set, snap the ball and have Wilson spike it in less than 10 seconds. Maybe if everything went right, they would have made it, but that would have been very difficult.
     

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