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Philip Hangs them up

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Jujubean, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Eli Philip and Ben part of that big draft class. Hopefully Ben follows in their footsteps and doesn’t embarrass himself next year and stunt the teams growth. Hang them up Big Boy thanks for the memories.
     
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  2. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    If all he can do is operate out of a shotgun and practice two days a week, I agree.

    Narrator: That's all that Ben can do.
     
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  3. S.T.D

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    Why has everyone forgotten the 1st half of the season. He didn't ....just ....operate out of shotgun...until later in the season. Not trying 2 argue...just stating a Fact.
     
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  4. S.T.D

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    Also...I've been 2 every Board from this division....that everyone thinks We can't compete in...(just reading, and enjoying their misery)....and everyone of them are saying the same things about their teams....that's being said here. Except Bengals. I'm talking about, QBs not good enough, line sucks, Coach sucks, Oc can't take advantage of anything...So on, and So on. Can't them & Us be right....Someone has 2 win the Division :shrug:
     
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  5. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    He definitely regressed as the season went on but let’s face it he is basically a concrete statue moving in the pocket. He has 0 mobility anymore and Ben a year older next year will only look more broken down. It’s time.
     
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  6. SteelersFanIrl

    SteelersFanIrl Well-Known Member

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    I think that stretch of bad play at the end of the season was just so miserable that people don’t think he can get back to the level he was at earlier in the season. Once teams took away the short passes it really was ugly, albeit I do think he was carrying an injury too.

    I think if Ben comes back next season it’ll follow the same pattern as 2020 with some good performances but some very bad ones as well, niggly injuries, holding and shaking out his arm etc. To be quite honest, from what I saw of him Rivers looked more able to keep going physically than Ben.

    Colts and Steelers are now in a similar bind, decent roster, need a new QB but don’t have the draft ammunition.
     
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  7. bigbenhotness

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    What changed the second half of the colts game and browns game when we were down?

    it’s like Ben becomes a machine when it’s too late lol
     
  8. santeesteel

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    Bye, Phyllis! Now he's got time to make 10 more kids!
     
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  9. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy for Philip Rivers. That being said. There are 41 million reasons why Ben will return next season but when he does he has to be better than what he has been this past year when it comes to accepting his role on this team. Anyone that thinks he is just going to hang those cleats up and fade into retirement is just kidding themselves at this point. No matter how you slice it though, looking at our dismal QB situation he still gives us our best shot at still trying to win another SuperBowl.
     
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  10. Steelers304

    Steelers304 Well-Known Member

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    Dude Ben was sorry down the stretch and when it mattered the most. First half of the season doesn't mean squat
     
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  11. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you. Prior to the Ravens game, I thought Ben was a legit MVP candidate. I personally thought he was having one of his finest seasons.

    The problem is the season took its toll. At Ben's age, he just wasn't able to withstand the wear and tear that an NFL season puts on his body. None of us are certain what all injuries Ben had. But we all watched his level of play fall off a cliff.

    If Ben plays next season, I expect he will again start off the season hot, and then slowly decline as the season progresses. I would rather he retire than see that happen again, not only for our sake as fans, but for him as well.
     
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  12. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Congrats to Rivers on a nice career. I never really liked the guy, but he did it at a high level for a long time. I'm surprised he didn't give it one more run with the Colts.
     
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  13. Disco1981

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    Cleveland : Line sucks Coach : Sucks

    Whoever's posting on that board sucks
     
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  14. Disco1981

    Disco1981 Well-Known Member

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    Bout to get busy up in there
     
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  15. shaner82

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    Ben is in shotgun way too much and doesn't like using play action under center. That's a big liability to our offence
     
  16. shaner82

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    I always liked him, partly because he was so insane.
     
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  17. Rush2seven

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    Should Ben return, he’s only 25 touchdowns behind Rivers. I know that’s not a reason to come back, but if Ben can have a 28+ TD and less than 10 int season, that will equate to a bunch of wins. What we saw with Drew Brees on Sunday was a guy who was done. Remember the pass to McDonald in the end zone with all kinds of zip on it? Ben knows his arm is good. All these “Ben doesn’t like plays” are also the responsibility of the coach.

    I’m still a believer that if the team does it’s due diligence and builds an effective running game, Ben can manage the offense well.
     
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  18. shaner82

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    But at what cost? His cap hit is ridiculous. Keeping him means losing other players. It also means we wasted a 3rd on Rudolph because he'll be a free agent and we will have no idea if he is our future or not
     
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  19. biggbunch68

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    Ive read again in again, how when Ben had to to bring us back in games this year.. he called his own plays,,, So maybe its not as much Bens fault as we/ yall might think.............

    And how did this thread go from being abt Rivers to Ben.............................. yes Rivers is a HOF QB
     
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  20. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    With the immediate productive impact on the NFL that QB's that are currently coming out of college are having, I can safely say that Rudolph is not our future. Serviceable back up yes, possibly a starter on a lower tier team maybe. Starting QB long term for the Steelers, highly doubtful. JMHO.
     
  21. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    I think you hit the nail on the head. This is not a championship roster and Ben is no longer close to a championship QB so why pay all that money and delay a rebuild??
     
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  22. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    The threads point was to show Philip knows it’s time to hang them up and so should Ben! And if he can’t do it himself the Rooney’s should make the choice for him. It’s what is best now.
     
  23. troybellringer55

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    3 Players now remain out of the 2004 NFL Draft Class

    1. Ben Roethlisberger
    2. Larry Fitzgerald
    3. Andy Lee
     
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  24. shaner82

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    You don't know that any more than I do. You're just guessing. A QB can't produce immediately if they don't get a chance to play. Him getting a few games under ****ty Fitchner was not a real opportunity.

    We aren't winning the SB next year. Cutting Ben so that we can keep other players, as well as letting Rudolph run with the starting job under a new OC, would be the smart thing to do. Unfortunately I no longer have faith in the Steelers to do the smart thing like they used to.
     
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  25. Smitch89

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    Well congrats phillip. On winning absolutely nothing in your career :clapping:
     
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