Pat Meyer

Thing is, the team did invest in an actual Offensive Line Coach; Pat Meyer. That said, Pat Meyer isn't the likes of Bill Callahan, Jeff Stoutland or even Dante Scarnecchia... so expecting him to be a miracle worker like the aforementioned wasn't realistic. For that mater, even the likes of Stoutland and Callahan have needed time with some of their greatest works; Jason Kelce for Stoutland and Trent Williams & Tyron Smith for Callahan. Now, to your point, if there is one thing Cowherd is right indirectly about Tomlin is Tomlin's wonderful form of musical chairs with his Offensive Lineman dating back to 2020. He has done this now for four seasons; all of which have yielded the same result.. poor. Expecting Meyer to fix that which didn't need fixing but now needing to fix what shouldn't need touched is no different than asking a Chef to make Lasagna but adding in ingredients that have no business in the dish. Meyer has been dealt bad hand after bad hand since joining in 2022; the mismanagement of Kevin Dotson, Kendrick Green playing out of position, Mason Cole playing out of position and now Tomlin having Broderick flip flop during both OTAs and Training Camp this year (WTF?). I repeat, Pat Meyer isn't new to the concept of coaching Offensive Lineman but isn't someone who can magically fix all of the teams Offensive Line problems if those problems are being caused by poor management of the Offense. This aspect is where I do agree with Colin; Tomlin's complete mismanagement of the Offensive Line has been going on for too long.


Troy Fautanu getting hurt did this new young Offensive Line no favors for he needs every rep he can get learning a new position; taking his lumps no less. However, Nate Herbig playing a position like Center is no different than Tomlin's BRILLIANT IDEA of playing Kendrick Green at Center; only difference being the experience Herbig has at the pros. Even so, Herbig showed last week why having "positional versatility" only counts if the experience itself warrants such a capability. For Herbig, this simply wasn't the case. Again, that befalls on Tomlin.


In short?! For once, Colin hits the mark in relations to Tomlin regarding the Offense. Problem is for Colin, he only hit part of it for all of Tomlin's faults at handling the Offensive Line, he can scout his ass off when it comes to the likes of TEs, WRs and RBs.

 

I agree it’s on Tomlin but these assistant coaches can speak up if they don’t think it is right or is Tomlin a Dictator? If he isn’t open to suggestions and makeing changes then he isn’t a very good Head Coach.

in addition outside of QB the offensive line is arguably one of the most important positions on the team. With it being the largest unit on the team personnel wise doesn't it make sense to have more coaches coaching that position group?

 

Meyer's OLs were crap in Carolina n the trend continues here, unfortunately

Not sure if the Munchak wanting to come back was true or not, BUT Steelers were looking for a new OC to move the off into the 21st Century yet kept Meyer forcing him on next OC when he's meh on a good day.....

This is Tomlin's MO N his biggest downfall. Steelers should've cur bait, but Art is clueless w no desire or ability to push Steelers to better days

All IMO

 

It is imperative with new OC Arthur Smith's offensive philosophy
that this OL operates efficiently. Coach them up coaches, motivate!

 

in carolina he had to use 14 different starting players on the line. most teams don't have 14 players on the team. mccaffery was hurt and there backup still eclipsed 1000 yards rushing which was the first time in his career. the one tackle that started every game was rated 6th overall in the league and 3rd in sacks allowed. it's easy to just say he was crap without all the facts. everywhere he's been including here the run game has gotten much better.

 

Blame Rooney for this, as you say: "This aspect is where I do agree with Colin; Tomlin's complete mismanagement of the Offensive Line has been going on for too long."

It is on ROONEY for keeping him at the helm - Tomlin cannot help his incompetencies. He is who he is, as they say.

 

Did he use 14 different players because he struggle to develop them and just threw new bodies at it or did they have alot of injuries? Again understand your defining Meyer but your unknowingly proving my point. The one guy you referenced as a great season had what that made him great? He had consistency in starting at one position. Thats what everyone is saying here. Stop the musical chairs. It may still not fix the issue but at least it allows proper evaluation, communication and cohesion, not to mention development.

 

I agree Tomlin is ultimately responsible but this never happened with the offensive line until four years ago when we lost all of our veterans to retirement, etc. Tomlin had some good offensive lines under his tenure as well. After Munch left it all went down hill.
I think honestly Tomlin was spoiled with Ben for much of his coaching tenure because Ben made offensive lines alot better with his ability to break tackles and get out of sacks and Ben had pretty decent pocket presence. Yeah he held onto the ball too long but he made a heck of alot of plays doing that and he was big enough and strong enough to shrug guys off of him. By the time he lost that part of the game we had an established offensive line with a great line coach and we were starting to transition to getting the ball out quicker.

With that all being said it appears Tomlin has never had to deal with the rebuilding and development of an offensive line over his coaching tenure nor with the development of a QB. I am hopeful Arthur Smith can save Tomlin and this offense in this instance. I think where Rooney falls short is pointing out to Tomlin his areas of weakness. Every coach has them. You can overcome those weaknesses by filling in the gaps with other coaches etc. Does Rooney not sit down with Tomlin each year and do a performance review to go over areas where he can improve?

 

injuries. much like he's dealing with here this year.

 

I posted a while back on Meyer after I noticed Isaac Seomalu make the same move that Kevin Dotson did, which resulted in Kenny Pickett's 2nd concussion.... I had to acknowledge that this thing was a scheme issue that falls directly on Meyer

 

I know it’s only two preseason games, but I’m not very optimistic that keeping Meyer was the right call.

 

Well with cook, herbig, Jones and fautanu down, this could get even worse.

 

Cook is hurt?! I didn't see any report of that. May I know where you got this info?!

 

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=938f...W5zaXZlLWxpbmUtaW5qdXJ5LWR5bGFuLWNvb2sv&ntb=1

i also saw it on the front page of my internet home page.

 

It would be the rock bottom for Meyer if Okorafor is great with the pats.....But this is not the case right now,not last night at least

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/08/e...gged-three-times-in-abysmal-preseason-finale/

 

cook to IR possibly to open the season with foot injury. 3 tackles down. let's blame the O-Line coach. let's just hope he can get someone up to speed in the next 2 weeks to play. dan moore is the only guy performing right now. not what most were expecting. let's also not think jones was performing flawlessly last year either. i saw moments he was rolled onto his hind end then too. this is more than an elbow problem. he played pretty well for a rookie last year but the bar wasn't very high at that point. it was far from perfect.