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Overall Offseason Assessment as of 3/19 - Flame Away!

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steel_Elvis, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    This should draw some fire :) This is my personal, long-winded and highly opinionated assessment of our offseason activity to date. Overall I think our front office has done a “B” level job (please no jokes about it being a "B Job").

    Departures:

    1. Mike Wallace – I would have loved to have Wallace stay in Pittsburgh, but he had dollar signs in his eyes. There was NO WAY to keep him at any reasonable salary. I see a lot of complaining on this board about how the team is falling apart because we are losing good young players, and Wallace is often listed at Exhibit A to that claim. Are there people who really think that we should have anted up a 5y/60m contract (with 30m guaranteed) to keep him? That’s insanity. Miami was foolish to spend him that much, and the chance of him paying 60m worth of dividends for the next 5 years is pretty low. In retrospect, if the front office was certain that we wouldn’t have been able to sign him, it may have made sense to trade him last year. However, as we were setting the roster last offseason, we were gearing up to make a serious run. I think it was a rational decision to keep him and hope that he would perform at his highest level during a contract year. I have to wonder what the Dolphins would have paid him if he had performed last year. GRADE: A

    2. Keenan Lewis – I was initially disappointed when we lost Lewis for only 5y/26m, but as I look at the situation further, I am warming up to the decision. It looked to me like there was a very good chance that Allen would pass him as one of our starting CBs next season (I’m guessing that was in our FO’s plan). Allen is looking to me like he can be like “Ike with hands,” which is pretty darn good. So, do you sign a guy to a $5+ m/yr contract, and then have him as your 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] corner in 2013? I don’t think so. Therefore, had we signed Lewis, there would have been pressure to start him over Allen for another season. That said, I expect that Ike may be a cap casualty in 2014, and we currently don’t appear to have his replacement on the roster. An Allen/Lewis CB combo would have looked good in 2014. I can go either way on this, but I am not in despair over the decision to not pay him. GRADE B-

    3. James Harrison – I love what Harrison brought to this team over the past several years, but he is clearly losing explosiveness and has become a flat out liability when asked to drop into coverage (see Jared Cook catch that sunk us against Tennessee). He is still the best run defender among 3-4 OLBs in the league, but the splash plays were getting sparse for a guy with a salary north of $6.5m. When you consider that he has drawn near zero interest, I think the rest of the league recognizes that he is not a $6m/yr player anymore. In fact, he may not be a $3m/yr player. If accounts are correct that we offered to keep him at only a 30% discount, then that was a VERY generous offer by our FO. GRADE: A

    4. Mendenhall – I was not a big fan of Mendy from an effort perspective, but I don’t think there’s any denying that he was easily the most talented back on our roster (keeping in mind that he was never healthy last season). I was not interested in keeping him for any type of real money, but in looking at what he got from Arizona I wonder if there was a 3-4 year deal to be had at a reasonable price. I’m not going to grade the FO too hard on this one, but he walked for a lot less than a lot of people thought his value might be, and I would have rather let either Redman or Dwyer depart without a $1.3m tender and try to keep Mendy. GRADE: C

    5. Colon – This was a questionable cut because of the dollars. We will get a lot of relief in June, but take a pretty big hit in 2014. If we are truly shifting to a zone blocking scheme, then the cut is pretty much necessary – but then why did we resign a relatively unathletic Ramon Foster? GRADE: B-

    6. Others – I don’t see us missing Mundy. We may still resign any one of Starks, Hampton, C. Batch, Leftwich, Sylvester or Legursky, but I don’t see us significantly worse off letting all of those guys move on. The key thing for me is that the FO did not give any of these guys a contract for anything more than the vet minimum, because they are all vet minimum caliber players at this stage – with the exception of Starks who doesn’t fit our (supposed) goal of getting more athletic on the line. Also, I wouldn’t mind seeing Will Allen back. GRADE: A (so far)

    Arrivals:

    1. Willie Gay – I think we made a great move. Bringing back Gay with only 500k guaranteed. Gay as a #3 is pretty good. I would have liked him even more as a #4, but that ship has sailed. Anyway, good value signing that helps ease the blow of losing Lewis. GRADE: A

    2. Bruce Gradkowski – I’ve made my thoughts on this signing pretty clear back when it was being discussed. I know we needed a backup QB, but I don’t see him as being “the” guy that we needed to add behind Ben. We rushed to sign him, and while the contract terms haven’t been released, I am seeing news that it included a $1.5m signing bonus. I will reserve final judgment until I see how his contract compares to better guys like Jason Campbell (when he gets signed). For now: GRADE: C-

    3. Matt Spaeth – This was a great signing to fill our immediate need to backfill behind Heath for 2013. We got the best run blocking TE in the game who happens to be a big red zone target to boot. The reported 2y/2m value, with only 250k in signing bonus, is not bad. GRADE: A

    Retentions:

    1. Larry Foote – I really, really don’t like the money side of the Foote resigning. I have a really hard time believing that Foote had another option that was anywhere close to the $2.5m guaranteed that we have allegedly paid him. It seems flat out implausible. To further “bug” me about this situation, Karlos Dansby – a bona fide stud 3-4 ILB who may have 2-3 more years of good play in him – hit the market the day after we hastily resigned Foote to a 3 year deal. I can’t see Foote having any more value outside of Pittsburgh than a 1 year, 1.5m deal. I know that our FO knows more than I do about this stuff, but I can’t help thinking that they got worked over by Foote’s agent. GRADE: D (due to salary, would be B otherwise)

    2. Ramon Foster – I think we overpaid a bit if the intent is for him to be a backup, but if the intent is for him to be our RG while moving DeCastro to the left side, the value is in line. The head scratcher for me is how resigning him fits our goal of getting more athletic on the O-line. Anyway, because of the money: GRADE: B-

    3. Plaxico Burress – This was a no-brainer for a vet minimum contract with no guaranteed money. GRADE: A

    4. Greg Warren – Good resigning, but too soon IMO. I can’t imagine him getting an offer elsewhere before June when our dollars for the Colon cut kick in. GRADE: B
     
  2. SteelByDesign

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  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Excellent post. I agree with most of it.

    I'd give the Lewis grade just a tad higher, B
    Mendy I think is a positive through subtraction. There's no denying he is the most talented rb we have but I think his other issues were becoming to damaging. B+
    Bruce Gradkowski I think should be higher, I think he is better then his stats indicate, I have to take into account the teams he played on. He was backup talent trying to be a starter on poor teams, not going to have positive numbers. B
    Larry Foot runs the defense and had a good season. B-
     
  5. Dick Shiner

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    Per usual, yeah, what he said.

    I also like Gradkowski and NEVER warmed up to Mendy. I always thought he was a weirdo. Not a good team guy. And his production didn't outweigh his aloofness. I think his benching at season's end followed by his departure validates my beliefs.

    I've always felt Foote was underappreciated here. Goes back to like 2006 on the old board where people just villified him for some reason I could never understand.

    I think people are missing the boat on the Keenan Lewis sitcheeyashin. I don't think he was an option for us. I think his mind was made up to go home to N'awlins. As far as this off-season goes, in our dealings with Keenan Lewis, I'd give us an A+ for not going way above what Nola was offering to lure him back. Kinda hard to suggest we were smart by not overspending on Wallace while suggesting we botched the Keenan Lewis situation. If we want to criticize our handling of Keenan, I think the criticism needs to be directed to the previous off-season when we didn't extend him.
     
  6. cajunyankee

    cajunyankee Well-Known Member

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    I completely agree.

    1st, Excellent post Elvis, I was gonna do one similar to this but I think you did a better job detailing each move than what I would have done.

    Secondly my feeling are a little more in line with Tomlin-era's. Foote gets a higher grade as he proved he can run this complicated defense. Yes he stinks as a run defender but since we have no-one behind him we needed to lock him up a few years to groom his replacement we're drafting.

    Mendy had to go, period. He may be more talented but his attitude had to go. This clears room for Dwyer to establish himself as our starter. It also gives the RB we draft a real opportunity to try and come in and realistically fight for that starting job.

    Lewis was gone and the FO knew it. They also feel Allen can easily replace him. Remember Lewis had less ints than Gay and actually gave up more TD's. With Allen as #2 and Gay as #3 I feel we'll be better off in the turnover battle this year which has been a concern for a while.

    I also like the Gradkowski move. Ben and all his resturctures is now a fixture here for the next three years easily. Jason Campbell would not want to sit as a back-up. Gradkowski an play well and knows his role and is okay with that.

    Cajun-
     
  7. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    honestly, i give them an A. last year they had tough decisions and they made them. this year the same thing. in my opinion it is why we are the model franchise in the nfl. now ask me again after the draft. it could drop to an F
     
  8. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Great post! I'm with you on Mendenhall. Even though he had his faults I was hoping we might re-sign him at a modest amount. As it turned out, he signed with the Cards for an ultra-modest amount which tells me that the Steelers really wanted rid of this guy. To me, the Dolphins look foolish and desperate signing Wallace to a $13M per year contract and allowing Jake Long to walk. Wallace will NEVER have the kind of success in Miami that he had in the Burgh, write it down. I'm not as down on the Gradkowski signing as you are. I think he'll be an adequate backup. He's a yinzer and from everything I hear, a GREAT presence in the locker room. One thing I've learned over the years is to trust the Steelers' FO. They get it right much more than they get it wrong.
     
  9. Yogi4

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    I like Gradkowski too, but now that Hasselback is free maybe he would have been a good sign (as a backup)
     
  10. fansince40s

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    Really a good and thought out post...... As for Wallace the fans and team are thrilled with the Wallace signing here in south Florida. Wallace with his speed and deep threat is exacty what the Dolphins needed a they didn't even blink when signing him. He seems to be really happy about coming to south Florida and a happy camper makes for a happy and better player. I know the Steelers could not afford him but I was disapointed to see him go, Ben needs all the help he can get and Wallace will be missed by him.

    I like the Gradkowski signing. He knows his role as a backup and I remember the Raider game he played and beat us, he really looked good back then and I remember thinking, wow this kid could really become a good QB if he got with a better team, will see.

    Mendy was our best running back but his demeanor and such was a big minus for him and the team, so I was sort of glad to see him go.


    I like the Burress signing, like I said before Ben needs all the help he can get and he and Burress click together.
     
  11. Dick Shiner

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    The more I think about it, I think these "off-season grades" are more appropriately directed towards LAST off-season than this one.

    We made the decisions to let Wallace, Keenan Lewis, and Mendy bolt at that time.

    When we are sold on a player, we make damn sure we extend them during the off-season prior to the last year on their contracts.

    We let Wallace walk, we clearly weren't sold on Keenan being a stud we HAD to lock up so were willing to let him test the market, and Mendy had just torn his ACL (to accompany his character concerns) so we were planning on letting him go too. We went heavy on the o-line in the draft last year knowing we wouldn't be bringing Colon and his fat contract back as well.

    92 was just a 'wait and see' (how he performed) last season. His lack of production sealed his fate.

    The only real 'moves' our FO has made this off-season was with who we brought in. Some re-treads for depth (which I'm fine with) and a younger, veteran qb.

    For all of the changes Colbert was talking about making from an 8-8 team, I don't really think we've made much of any. I think those changes were decided over a year ago.
     
  12. Wardismvp

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    Have we improved our team over last year so far?
     
  13. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Thanks for all of the good comments. Just to be clear, I only give the Foote resigning a poor grade because of the dollars. 3y/5.5m with 2.5m guaranteed is a lot for him. I don't know that he had any value to a team other than the Steelers, and I can't help feeling that we did a deal too soon, and at too high a price. I wanted Foote back, and I think his retention will be a good bridge to his replacement (who is probably not on our roster yet).
     
  14. grannieBurgh

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    I really like the overall assesment leading off this thread. I'll really have to watch Gradkowski to see how he fits into the whole picture here, but I agree with signing him on. Also need to acquaint myself better with some others. Glad to see Foote staying on, too, and I'm in on never understanding the griping that went on about him. (Think some tend to watch the guys who get all the notice from the commentators and miss enjoying the solid contributions of players like Foote and Taylor and some others). I don't think we're going to end up miserably over the losses from the free agency and cuts, even though we'll be missing some of our favorites. Might generate complaining among fans for the first couple of games, but I think guys will really try to grab the opportunities to step up once the season gets going. Great post, Steel Elvis, and thanks for the food for thought.
     
  15. SteelTerp

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    I do not understand where all the Foote love comes from. Opposing QBs had a Passer Rating of 121 (!) when targeting Foote this past season, 2nd worst among all LBs. I don't care how "solid" he is, as a non-blitzer proving to be a pretty big liability.
     
  16. fansince40s

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    That is a very interesting stat that I really never looked into before but it can tell a lot about a LB and his pass coverage skills, guess he is getting slower in his older age and other teams that really know us pick up on that weakness.
     
  17. Thigpen82

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    I agree on the whole, Elvis.

    One point I would take you up on is Spaeth being a big end-zone target. True, he should be - and I was very much hoping he would become one when we first drafted him. But unless he's developed mega skills whilst at Chicago, I remember his catching was less than spectacular. Perhaps a bit of focused coaching can fix this, though?

    I also think that Gradkowski may turn out to be better than you think, but at the moment I can see him going either way... solid BU or another Leftwich.
     
  18. Wardismvp

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    Have we improved our team from last year up to this point with the players we have added/ retained?
    Were there players out there within our budget that could have been looked at?
     
  19. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's MARCH, not July. So far the front office has been disciplined and patient, and has not overreacted and overpaid players the way that teams like the Dolphins have. That is step 1. Teams that look better on paper in mid-March usually pick high in the following year's draft. There are a few players that we did not get that we may have been able to afford, but no game changers.
     
  20. 12to88

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    The Ravens have completely fallen apart. The Bengals and Browns are, well, the Bengals and Browns. I think Colbert and Tomlin see a window, here, where if they can keep pieces in place, and bring in pieces they know (Spaeth and Gay), then it puts them in good position. The AFC North is the Steelers for the taking. But it is a weak division. 9-7 could easily win it. The team is a division contender, not sure they're much more beyond that.
     
  21. 12to88

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    And I forgot to add: to make matters worse for Baltimore (and Cincy, to a degree), the Steelers have a much higher draft position.
     
  22. SteelTerp

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    doesn't really matter in this year's draft. It's so deep and untalented at the top that draft position won't have that big a factor. Also, dismissing the Bengals and Browns just because of their long term ineffectiveness is shortsighted. They both beat us last year in case you don't recall and should only improve as Dalton progresses
     
  23. mac daddyo

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    not to mention took our playoff spot from us.:cool:
     
  24. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Oh let me see AJ Green, Gino Atkins and more. A Proven WINNER 3 rd year QB getting better and more experienced, lots
    of talent in Bungle land, of course you would expect this having so high of draft choices for so long. But the last 2 drafts
    they have nailed it, so there talent level is better than ours, AND younger.
     
  25. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Elvis, I am not trying to one up you, I like your threads and comments and think you are very knowledgible,
    all I was asking is up to this point, I think we can do better than we did. Your way to smart not to realize
    that the Steelers need an infusion of talent and PLAYMAKERS.
     

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