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Our answer to drafting a QB isn't going to happen

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Mashburn, Oct 9, 2021.

  1. Mashburn

    Mashburn Well-Known Member

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    Next year there is only one true prospect projects to go in the first round.

    [​IMG] Matt Corral**, QB, Ole Miss
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 198.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
    Projected Round (2022): 1.


    [​IMG] Spencer Rattler**, QB, Oklahoma
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.6.
    Projected Round (2022): 1-2.
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    [​IMG] Malik Willis**, QB, Liberty
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 218.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.5.
    Projected Round (2022): 1-3.


    [​IMG] Sam Howell**, QB, North Carolina
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 220.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.9.
    Projected Round (2022): 1-3.


    [​IMG] Desmond Ridder*, QB, Cincinnati
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 215.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.8.
    Projected Round (2022): 2-4.



    To give you an idea. Mason Rudolph was a projected 1-3 round.

    [​IMG] Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 235.
    40 Time: 4.90.
    Projected Round (2018): 1-3.



    There is not top 5, no top 20. It's just one guy to go in the first round round. So if anyone picks a QB in the top 20, they're reaching. If multiple teams draft a QB in the first round, it's reaching.

    To me our only real chance is to make a trade or look into FA with guys like Wilson, Rodgers. We do have the money to make something happen.
     
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  2. Maddog78

    Maddog78 Well-Known Member

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    That's pretty lightweight analysis - where is it from?
     
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  3. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Too early to tell. By season’s end one or more of these guys could put out some great tape and move their way up the draft boards. I like Corral so far based on game tape. He will easily be a 1st rounder unless he falters. Willis has elite physical abilities other than height. Howell should work his way back into the 1st. I think there will be at least 3 that go in the 1st.
     
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  4. Maddog78

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    Correct - by this time in his last year at OSU, Mason was considered by some to be the best prospect in the draft, by most a first rounder. He was hurt in post-season workouts and measurables.

    Besides, we won't be in the market for a QB until 2025 or so...

     
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  5. steel machine

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    I don't feel comfortable with 6 foot QB's so my vote is for Desmond Ridder. I know nothing about NCAA players but I know a taller QB can see over those big linemen.

    Still hope for another miracle like 6th round Tom Brady was.

    I still believe Mason Rudolph is our starting QB in 2022. He will take all kinds of crap on this board but he is going to get a chance to prove he can be a starting QB in the NFL. His back up will be whoever we draft. I'd rather draft some big ass O-line men. Most NFL games our decided in the trenches.
     
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  6. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Are you kidding about 2025 or do you: A) think Ben hangs on. B) Mason is our guy for the next few years. C) just real pissed at the front office right now. ??????????????????????
     
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  7. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    I just can't see the Pittsburgh Steelers getting a starting QB through FA. Just seems like something the organization won't do.
     
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  8. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a fan of next's years QB selection either. The fact that Spencer Rattler is being mentioned as a first round pick says it all.(He shouldn't be) I would hold off on taking a QB until there is a true franchise guy available, even if it takes a few years.
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Um, some of those guys will go top 5.

    Willis will be a stud in this league.
     
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  10. Junebug

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    Problem solved.....


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  11. steel machine

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    Never heard of Liberty until I read this thread. I'm thinking they don't play the bigger schools??????? Does his competition make him look good????????

    Really have no idea.
     
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  12. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure Eric Green went to Liberty. I have no idea if the QB from Liberty is any good or not. But remember that Miami of Ohio didnt play top level competition either. Ben did pretty well.
     
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  13. Hanratty#5

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    Yes, Eric Green went to Liberty. As did two Pirates from their 90's team, Sid Bream and Randy Tomlin.
     
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  14. CK 13

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    They have been stalling for years. Should have had one to step in. They thought that Ol Ben would last forever. They should make a new Operation game and use Ben as the patient.

    I'm warming up to the possibility of AAron. It will cost possibly a few first round picks. He respects Tomlin and he isn't going anywhere. He is at odds with LaFleur and wants out of GB. I feel he could work with Canada in which Ben won't.

    Unless we can land a true franchise QB in the 1st and have him sit behind Rudolph for a year. But it depends where the draft position will be.

    The long and short of it even if Ben can muster a few more wins he still has to go. Fools gold.
     
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  15. SpeedyMikeWallace

    SpeedyMikeWallace Well-Known Member

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    Way too early. These projection lists will look dramatically different in March. Carson Strong isn't even listed here
     
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  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He’s talking about Rodgers ;)

    Lot of big talent has come from small schools. Don’t know how many QB’s fit that mold though.
     
  17. Maddog78

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    Couldn't beat out Jarrett Stidham so he goes to...Liberty? That's a red flag right there.
     
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  18. KMM

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    Way too early is right. Zach Wilson was on no one's radar as a first rounder last year at this time.

    I did an analysis once of QB's drafted since 1990 which I can't find now, but essentially the chances of finding a franchise QB is about 33% in the first round and goes down from there. The third round is like 10% (essentially Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott and no one else) and after that it's essentially zero. (Brady notwithstanding.)

    Basically, barely worth drafting a QB after round 2 unless all you're looking for is a backup.
     
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  19. KMM

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    I wouldn't read too much into that. a) Guys develop at different times and under different conditions, b) Joe Burrow transferred cuz he couldn't beat out Haskins, Hurts transferred couldn't beat out Tua. I think I know which of those I'd rather have. (Ok, I get that those guys went to power 5 schools, not Liberty, but still.)
     
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  20. steelersrule6

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    Willis hasn't faced big time competition, I doubt he would help in 2022.
     
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  21. Blast Furnace

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    I don’t care about that stuff, who knows what goes into a coaches decision, all I care about is what I see him doing on a football field.
     
  22. Mike T

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    This team has way too many holes to fill to consider bringing in a older vet who’s in win now mode. Not to mention you would have to ruin the cap for the next few years to bring him in. Next year needs to be a cap reset year to finally clear all the contract restructures done over the last few years to keep giving Ben a chance.
     
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  23. S.T.D

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    Not true. Burrow broke his hand. Hard for A Qb 2 beat anyone out with a broken Hand.:thumbs_up:
     
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  24. SteelersFanIrl

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    Couldn’t agree more. They should have done that this year.

    Rooney doesn’t think like that however. Rodgers to the Steelers is definitely a possibility IMO as they try to keep rolling. Depends on what GB will want and who else will want him of course. I still think Denver is his most likely landing spot
     
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  25. KMM

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    He wasn't going to beat out Haskins regardless. Even Burrow has said that at the time Haskins had the inside track due to his performance vs Michigan. Haskins was definitely more of a Meyer type of QB anyway.
     
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