OLB

Don't you have concerns that the only thing Kikaha does well is rush the passer? He is not very good against the run (right now, maybe will be in 3 yrs) and does not look good dropping into coverage. I said earlier the ACL was to both knees, but have seen where it was to the left knee both times. He would be great as a situational pass rusher but that's only coming in on a rotational basis. I'm not sure I'd want that with 1.22. We just spent a #1 on JJ who's game is not complete yet, that would be another incomplete player at the same position.

I'll have to watch some more on O. Odigzihuwa. the hip surgeries still scare me for a guy that needs to bend around the edge.

 

that's not true turtle. I'm not sure how you can say he can't play the run. lets look at the tackle numbers.

this is the last two years total tackles:

Beasley - 2013- 44 2014- 34

Dupree 61-74

Thompson 78-81

Gregory 66-54

ray 39-65

fowler 50-60

orchard 50-84

odighizuwa 0- 61 he had 44 in 2012

Harold 51-54

hunter 57-73

mauldin 40-51

kikaha 70-72

all these are not just sack numbers for kikaha. he's besting most that are ranked ahead of him the last two years in tackle numbers so, he's making them other than sacks.

 

Kikaha is the man. You can't teach relentless, and he has it in bucketfuls. That trait is what makes JJ Watt so great. I wouldn't be most pleased if he was our first selection, but I also wouldn't be heartbroken. He's not a Bruce Irvin/Barkevious Mingo; he'll be a 250-pounder.

 

what I'm saying is if we want a pass rusher, we better just do it and not wait. he's as good as any that will be left by our pick. his tackle numbers are second only to thompsons, yet far more sacks then Thompson. just do it, he will help us. give joey porter something to work with. I don't buy the wait until the 2nd round for him. he'll be gone. corners are deep, edge rushers not near as deep.

 

Yeah, I think of all the positions that we need, we run the most risk of missing out on a quality player if we wait on an edge guy. Most, if not all of the top guys will be gone by #22, and the best of the rest may not make it to #54. If that is what we want/need, we should pull the trigger. To me, there is clearly more value along the lines at #22, but I think we reach a little for need and go edge.

Corners can wait, the top guys aren't really top guys. We can take the best of what is left in the 2nd or 3rd and not be far behind the guy(s) that go in the 1st.

 

I agree. if that's what they want. that will be 3 years in a row for a LB but with butler as new DC, he loves drafting LB'ers.

 

I believe that once again OLB will be our
first pick, unless they happen to sign Worilds/
FA. We have to figure out somehow to get pressure on the QB.

 

2014

vs UCLA


vs Louisville


vs Pittsburgh


vs Miami


vs Cameron Erving New!




2013


vs Maryland

 

2014

vs UCLA


vs Louisville


vs FSU New!




2013

you may also get some from here too elvis

 

there is also one on max valles on this site that would give you another glimps elvis.

 

not a problem chief. he goes against some of the better tackles in the draft in these too.

 

I agree BF and especially with butler saying he'd like to blitz more. run stuffers are not the guys you want to blitz a lot with. you definitely want pass rushers if that's your thinking.

 

I saw on a BTSC article where Kikaha failed some team medical tests at the combine but they were very vague. I can't seem to find that confirmed elsewhere though.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...47857/2015-nfl-draft-full-mock-draft-steelers

at the end.

 

I was wondering if that was true, no other site had mention of it.

 

Watched the Harold vs FSU tape ugh!. I know Erving is a very talented OL but some of the things I saw were disturbing. He is late off the snap almost every play. I saw a lack of power and even more disturbing a lack of hustle. Maybe I need to watch more but I don't see first round talent......no way.

 

whats everyones thoughts on some of these ILB'ers that could be converted?

NFL draft scout has now included McKinney from A&M to the OLB rankings.

how about guys like stephon Anthony from Clemson? speed, nice size, a nose for the ball, decent in coverage. could we just add some speed and good size and convert our LB'ing crew to 4 good all around types? we have some decent ones in place. great speed added to the mix, but just add more to what we have and get away from the prototypical type we have been accustomed to.

could this be in butlers plans of running the 4-3 or 3-4 or whatever our personnel dictates? get 4 fast LB'ers flying around from different spots? we know the old standard okie type defense isn't working like it used to. could this be an option to consider?

 

yes elvis. Anthony from Clemson is probably better. I've mentioned McKinney on here before. he's got the look and size butit doesn't always transfer on film. similar to Harold. Anthony however is very active, strong and has a good bit of quickness. he also plays with some football smarts from what I have seen.

 

i read several mocks that say we can take dupree ..

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts

i thought he would be gone by 22