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OK, Lawerence Timmons this why we drafted you #1

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Wardismvp, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Angles Jack, angles. He chased down Vick didn't he?
     
  2. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Angles Jack, angles. He chased down Vick didn't he?[/quote:37v4m58m]
    Yes, and we had posters on this board completely puzzled as to why he could chase down Vick and be outrun by Manning.
     
  3. RobVos

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    With all due respect, there was no way Timmons could have caut Manning from where he was coming from on that play. Timmons, did play very well vs. Vick.
     
  4. JackAttack 5958

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    Angles Jack, angles. He chased down Vick didn't he?[/quote:2syx5kh5]

    I agree that it's all about angles and that's been one of the criticisms levied against Timmons thus far in his career, that he tends to take bad angles and overrun plays at times. I hope he has his nose in a geometry textbook as we speak because the angles he takes against RG3 tomorrow could determine the outcome of the game.
     
  5. HugeSnack

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    Angles Jack, angles. He chased down Vick didn't he?[/quote:1lk1rt77]

    I agree that it's all about angles and that's been one of the criticisms levied against Timmons thus far in his career, that he tends to take bad angles and overrun plays at times. I hope he has his nose in a geometry textbook as we speak because the angles he takes against RG3 tomorrow could determine the outcome of the game.[/quote:1lk1rt77]
    You're saying Timmons took a bad angle on that play? :hmmm: Looked to me like he ran through the correct hole, straight to where Manning should have been, and Manning did a great job of bouncing out just at the right moment. With no contain on the play (Worilds), seems to me that the only way Timmons could have beaten that scramble would have been to loop all the way around the outside at the beginning of his blitz, which not only is a strange tactic to take against one of the least mobile QBs in the league, but it also would have made his blitz entirely pointless because then there'd be no reason for Manning to scramble in the first place. Manning would have stepped up like any other ordinary passing play, and either thrown the ball or run it up the middle and slid.
     
  6. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Lawerence Timmons is the most athletic LB in the fold right now,
    Sure it is going to take a team effort but, Of all the defensive personnel we have to contain RG3
    Lawerence Timmons is the most competent.he has to play loke he did against Vick, and we
    saw that he is capable of doing this.
     
  7. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    I agree that it's all about angles and that's been one of the criticisms levied against Timmons thus far in his career, that he tends to take bad angles and overrun plays at times. I hope he has his nose in a geometry textbook as we speak because the angles he takes against RG3 tomorrow could determine the outcome of the game.[/quote:3lgtt5gh]
    You're saying Timmons took a bad angle on that play? :hmmm: Looked to me like he ran through the correct hole, straight to where Manning should have been, and Manning did a great job of bouncing out just at the right moment. With no contain on the play (Worilds), seems to me that the only way Timmons could have beaten that scramble would have been to loop all the way around the outside at the beginning of his blitz, which not only is a strange tactic to take against one of the least mobile QBs in the league, but it also would have made his blitz entirely pointless because then there'd be no reason for Manning to scramble in the first place. Manning would have stepped up like any other ordinary passing play, and either thrown the ball or run it up the middle and slid.[/quote:3lgtt5gh]

    Not necessarily on this play. He did seem to get re-routed by the O-lineman but we are talking about the slew footed Peyton Manning here. Who knows what Worilds was doing on that play. He appeared to attempt a spin move and fell helplessly into the arms of the lineman thereby losing contain if that was his responsibility. My point is that Timmons has had the tendency to hit the gap like a bat out of hades in the past and has allowed the QB to beat him to the outside by over pursuing. He's also been criticized, even in some of your analysis, of taking bad angles. He plays fast and not smart at times. Today, he'd better play fast AND smart if he wants to contain arguably the most dynamic QB to ever play in the NFL.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    I agree that it's all about angles and that's been one of the criticisms levied against Timmons thus far in his career, that he tends to take bad angles and overrun plays at times. I hope he has his nose in a geometry textbook as we speak because the angles he takes against RG3 tomorrow could determine the outcome of the game.[/quote:3g8phfyf]
    You're saying Timmons took a bad angle on that play? :hmmm: Looked to me like he ran through the correct hole, straight to where Manning should have been, and Manning did a great job of bouncing out just at the right moment. With no contain on the play (Worilds), seems to me that the only way Timmons could have beaten that scramble would have been to loop all the way around the outside at the beginning of his blitz, which not only is a strange tactic to take against one of the least mobile QBs in the league, but it also would have made his blitz entirely pointless because then there'd be no reason for Manning to scramble in the first place. Manning would have stepped up like any other ordinary passing play, and either thrown the ball or run it up the middle and slid.[/quote:3g8phfyf]

    Not necessarily on this play. He did seem to get re-routed by the O-lineman but we are talking about the slew footed Peyton Manning here. Who knows what Worilds was doing on that play. He appeared to attempt a spin move and fell helplessly into the arms of the lineman thereby losing contain if that was his responsibility. My point is that Timmons has had the tendency to hit the gap like a bat out of hades in the past and has allowed the QB to beat him to the outside by over pursuing. He's also been criticized, even in some of your analysis, of taking bad angles. He plays fast and not smart at times. Today, he'd better play fast AND smart if he wants to contain arguably the most dynamic QB to ever play in the NFL.[/quote:3g8phfyf]

    lol, now hold up Jack, I know you are prone to making sensational statements but slow your roll here ;) The kids 7 games into his career, he's no more dynamic then Cam was last year and look how he is doing so far this season. Right now he's just another running QB, if he plays at a high level year after year, then we'll see. I'm not sold on him yet, I admit he is playing lights out so far but running QB's don't tend to last. Even Ben gets too beat up to play at a high level all year and he's the toughest sob in the league and not even a prototypical running QB like RG.
     
  9. PWP

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    We need to play a lot of Dime Defense IMO....With that said we also need to bring Timmons from our Defensive left side,,,we should also play man/zone on that side and let Ike take that side...This could stop the quick passes and give Timmons time to flush him to his left...RG3 is a great talent ,but he is not as fast or accurate throwing while running left....So by being in the Dime a lot and flushing him left we can use the closing speed of Curtis Brown if he crosses the LOS....Not to mention this would force RG3 to the Harrison side...I like our chances if RG3 is heading lef,but if he starts getting room on the right side with a run pass option then this will expose Mundy as the below the line SS that he is....

    I am sure the Redskins are game planning to attack this side of our D ,,,I hope DL is countering that,above is a solid way to do it...
     
  10. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    :hmmm:
    I agree that it's all about angles and that's been one of the criticisms levied against Timmons thus far in his career, that he tends to take bad angles and overrun plays at times. I hope he has his nose in a geometry textbook as we speak because the angles he takes against RG3 tomorrow could determine the outcome of the game.[/quote:2aw3664g]
    You're saying Timmons took a bad angle on that play? :hmmm: Looked to me like he ran through the correct hole, straight to where Manning should have been, and Manning did a great job of bouncing out just at the right moment. With no contain on the play (Worilds), seems to me that the only way Timmons could have beaten that scramble would have been to loop all the way around the outside at the beginning of his blitz, which not only is a strange tactic to take against one of the least mobile QBs in the league, but it also would have made his blitz entirely pointless because then there'd be no reason for Manning to scramble in the first place. Manning would have stepped up like any other ordinary passing play, and either thrown the ball or run it up the middle and slid.[/quote:2aw3664g]

    Not necessarily on this play. He did seem to get re-routed by the O-lineman but we are talking about the slew footed Peyton Manning here. Who knows what Worilds was doing on that play. He appeared to attempt a spin move and fell helplessly into the arms of the lineman thereby losing contain if that was his responsibility. My point is that Timmons has had the tendency to hit the gap like a bat out of hades in the past and has allowed the QB to beat him to the outside by over pursuing. He's also been criticized, even in some of your analysis, of taking bad angles. He plays fast and not smart at times. Today, he'd better play fast AND smart if he wants to contain arguably the most dynamic QB to ever play in the NFL.[/quote:2aw3664g]

    lol, now hold up Jack, I know you are prone to making sensational statements but slow your roll here ;) The kids 7 games into his career, he's no more dynamic then Cam was last year and look how he is doing so far this season. Right now he's just another running QB, if he plays at a high level year after year, then we'll see. I'm not sold on him yet, I admit he is playing lights out so far but running QB's don't tend to last. Even Ben gets too beat up to play at a high level all year and he's the toughest sob in the league and not even a prototypical running QB like RG.[/quote:2aw3664g]

    Me, a sensationalist? :hehehe:
    I'm actually just repeating what a lot of NFL analysts have said. RG3 seems to have the rare combination of speed, passing ability AND brains that rarely come along at the QB position. Timmons and the rest of the defense better get their game faces on today.
     

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