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Official SB XLIX thread.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 86WardsWay, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    Ben end would be ripped for sure, but the most vitriol would be reserved for Todd Haley. As the OC, no matter who it is, can do no right in Pgh.
     
  2. Diamond

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    Whether the play call was stupid or not, if he catches the ball and scores it was a great call, he didnt, so it becomes a stupid call, we steeler fans go through this second guessing plays the whole season, the only gripe I have is they had a 6-5 receiver, Mathews, who caught everything thrown his way during the game, so the safest pass play would have been a jump ball fade pass that only he could catch with his 6-5 height, by the way, Lynch had been stopped multiple times on 1 and 2 yard runs at the goal line during the regular season....
     
  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    I watched this play slow moton last night and this is the biggest thing I saw. The defender went for the ball, the receiver had short arms waiting for it to land in his lap. It's the dang Super Bowl, fight for the ball.
     
  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    When it happened, I thought it was a dumb call. But then some facts were added to my thoughts. During the season, teams had thrown the ball from the 1 yard line 60 some times. Not a single one was intercepted. TD and you win, or the clock stops and you try again. An interception was not in the odds. During the season, they had run Lynch from the 1 yard line 6 times. He scored once. The odds were against this, a lot of time would have been used, a fumble is a possibility, and the last time out would be gone. Based on the odds, it was a good call. When it doesn't work, it's a bad call. If the WR had remotely tried to fight for the ball, he either would have caught the ball, or there would have been a PI call.
     
  5. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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  6. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    The latest report is that Marshawn Lynch didn't even shower after the game. Just changed clothes and left the stadium.

    Latest report on Belicheat is he never has showered and his girlfriend just loves him that way.

    Latest report on Brady is he's still showering and stroking his ego.
     
  7. contract

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    As was pointed out on Mike and Mike ... Lockette doesn't score even if he catches the ball. The DB was across the goal line by the time the ball arrived. With a clean catch, that would've been 3rd down ~ 1 foot short of the goal line.
     
  8. shaner82

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    Hey Seahawks, how would you like to win the SB?

    Seahaws: No thanks, we'll pass.
     
  9. GB_Steel

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    And yet two more attempts at a score, assuming he doesn't bump off a DB going for the INT and score the TD anyway. I think the WR blew it.
     
  10. contract

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    Well the good news is that the Seahawks still have their final timeout.
     
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    He did bounce off the DB ... going in the opposite direction.

    https://vine.co/v/OtEnQBwOP9t
     
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    :lolol:
     
  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    Didn't see that. If you are at the 1, you would think they should be at least running a play to catch it in the end zone.
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    A fade still requires the throw to be in the right spot, had the pass to Lockette been in the right spot, it would not have been intercepted either, should have been lower and inside more. Then only he would have been able to catch it or it would have fell incomplete.

    Like some of us say on this board, its about execution.

    Still think they should have ran it though, you can throw out the stats about Lynch running from the 1, its the SB, ton of momentum swinging your way and most importantly, NE's defense was gassed by than.
     
  15. contract

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    That's always been my opinion, but for some reason offenses love running routes short of the goal line or 1st down marker and relying on the receiver to gain yards after the catch. IMO you throw the ball across the goal line so that if he catches it, it's a TD.
     
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    The QB can't account for a route that is run half-assed. Especially on a quick throw like that.

    https://vine.co/v/OtEnQBwOP9t

    Russell takes a step back and fires the ball to a predetermined point in space. If the WR explodes into the route rather than jogging it ...
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    The route wasn't that horrible, the defender made a great play but if the throw was more inside he doesn't catch it, just breaks up the play.
     
  18. jeh1856

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    One thing I always liked about Dan Marino was if it was 3rd and 7, and you were not over the first down line, he looked for someone else to throw the ball to.
     
  19. fanforlife

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    They could have run the ball at least twice and maybe three times from where they were considering they had one timeout left. Pretty safe bet Lynch scores and the Seahawks win the SB. I would have rather Seattle won because I dislike them less than I dislike New England, but the only thing I really cared about was the total points being over 48 so I would win a good bit of money on my bet. I wasn't feeling very good about the bet at the end of the 1st quarter when it was 0-0 but then both offenses got busy and got the job done. Next year we will be in the SB so everything will be good.
     
  20. BobbyBiz

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    Thats a good view. He did jog into the middle. Busting out hard would have at least shielded the DB from the ball. Still would have never throw it though. 2 runs, 3 runs, 4 runs with Lynch. How ever many it would have taken. Live by Lynch, die by Lynch.
     
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    IMO you put 8 offensive linemen on the field with Wilson, Lynch and a FB ... and let the Pats figure out how to handle that.
     
  22. blountforcetrauma

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    Their OC sorta threw him under the bus a little after the game and said that he "could have been stronger to the ball". If I was the wr I'd probably say "yeah and you could have given it to Marshawn Lynch too".
     
  23. BobbyBiz

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    and the agony of defeat......

    Worth the watch.

    [video=youtube;TxmtQqkKYtA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxmtQqkKYtA[/video]
     
  24. Lizard72

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    That play just shows what Wilson isn't good at because he isn't as tall as you'd like for a QB. The taller guys release that ball from a higher point and they have an easier time seeing that route. He had to step and fire, but you can see the path the ball took makes it more likely that he throws it a little higher than it should be.
     
  25. AFan

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    That is an interesting comment. And you do wonder if short QBs have a short time stamp. Doug Flutie in his last NFL turn had a very good 2 yr stretch in Buffalo, but he ultimately got figured out.


    But you wouldn't ask Dan Marino to run a QB option or Daryle Lamonica to run a West Coast offense, Pete Carroll should be smart enough not to have Wilson do things he can't do well, in the last minute of the SB.

    i still believe someday that one of the mobile college QBs will fundamentally change the model in the NFL. I thought maybe Wilson was the guy. Hell, two handoffs to Lynch maybe he still is. shortness is a disadvantage, but Wilson is mobile, can find the open guy deep, maybe that's enough. Maybe not.
     

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