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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by 86WardsWay, Dec 25, 2019.

  1. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - Keep or Can?
    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - Keep or Can?

    Randy Fichtner, OC - Keep or Can?

    James Daniel - TE's - Keep or Can?
    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - Keep or Can?
    Shaun Sarrett - OL - Keep or Can?
    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - Keep or Can?
    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - Keep or Can?


    Keith Butler - DC- Keep or Can?

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - Keep or Can?
    Tom Bradley - DB's - Keep or Can?
    Karl Dunbar - DL - Keep or Can?

    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - Keep or Can?


    Danny Smith - ST's - Keep or Can?

    I left out the Strength and conditioning coach and all of the assistants. These are your 2019 Steelers main coaches and I'm not sure any of them are on the Hot Seat so to speak because of all the injuries so maybe I should throw the S & C coach out there too?


    Garrett Giemont - Conditioning Coord - Keep or Can?

    Fire away people (No pun intended) but don't be surprised if the Steelers keep all their coaches for next season. Fitch may be on the verge of being dismissed but Ben will fight tooth and nail to keep him. Did not work out for BA that way though as he was still shown the door.

     
  2. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Tomlin... keep, he's here to stay whether we like it or not.
    Finctner... can, wish we could bring in another OC, but it probably won't happen
    Butler... keep

    Sarrett...can

    The rest can stay as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  3. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - Keep

    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - Keep

    Randy Fichtner, OC - SEND HIM TO THE ISLAND OF MISFIT TOYS!!

    James Daniel - TE's - Keep

    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - Keep

    Shaun Sarrett - OL - Keep

    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - Keep

    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - Keep

    Keith Butler - DC- Likely gone

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - Likely to be the new Defensive Coordinator

    Tom Bradley - DB's - Keep

    Karl Dunbar - DL - Keep

    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - Keep

    Danny Smith - ST's - Keep





    Garrett Giemont - Conditioning Coord - Keep




    REALLY want Fichtner gone. Butler's contract is expired and he likely will not be renewed anyway. I can easily see Teryl Austin taking over as he has NFL Experience.



    People are critiquing Shaun Sarrett too much due to an aging Offensive Line. Cannot really conclude nor deduce anything from that alone and nevermind what we have seen thus far. Get back to me next season when the younger Offensive Lineman get their shot.



    Not sure what the animosity of Garrett Giemont could be. He has done a good job. Age is what is causing so many of these injuries here. Stephon Tuitt has been injury prone so that really is not an indictment on Garrett anyway.
     
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  4. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    I am not a Randy fan but am pretty sure he is not going anywhere. Although I disagree with AQL about sending him to the island of misfit toys because my very young family members love those toys and I wouldn't want him screwing them up.

    Sorry still not a Tomlin hater although IMO if the Steeler didn't have Ben under center his record would look like crap.
     
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  5. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    MT- keep. He’s not going anywhere anyway
    RF- can but we’re not going to. Ben’s boy. QB and injuries excuse. Can’t even make lemon water out of lemons.
    KB- can. Shouldn’t need 8-10 first rounders to be competent and he does.
    Mitchell- eh what does he really do. I think it’s a title. He can stay if he wants.
    Danny Smith- I’ll drive....
    TE and RB coach- stay
    Sarrett- stay. There should be enough veteran know how and leadership there. I don’t blame Sarrett for their underperforming.

    Sherman- can
    Asst. OL coach- no idea how important he is.
    Jerry O,Austin,Bradley,Dunbar- stay

    Giemont- neutral. Need to seriously look into what he is bringing to the table though in lieu of all our injuries.
     
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  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    Yep, this pot hasn’t been stirred for a few hours :smiley1:
     
  7. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Believe it or not. Nobody is forcing you to react.
     
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  8. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    TOMLIN gone!
    Fitchner gone!

    Rooneys should sell this franchise Steelers fans now celebrate 8-8 seasons how pathetic times have become
     
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  9. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Beer is good

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    Grump

    I even stuck a happy face in there so you wouldn’t twist a hemorrhoid.

    :facepalm:
     
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  10. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of what the organization will do whether or not I approve, this is what you asked for, what I would do:

    Clean House on Black Monday after the Rats game. New HC can determine who, if anyone, he wishes to remain on the staff.
     
  11. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - Can (I give him credit for holding things together this year, but I still think its time for a change.)
    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - Can

    Randy Fichtner, OC - Can (Not sure how much of the offensive woes are Randy or how much is lack of talent on O. Either way The O is a mess)

    James Daniel - TE's - Keep
    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - Keep
    Shaun Sarrett - OL - Can
    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - Can
    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - Can

    Keith Butler - DC- Keep (With the Defense playing the way it is I wouldnt make any changes)

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - Keep
    Tom Bradley - DB's - Keep
    Karl Dunbar - DL - Keep
    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - Keep

    Danny Smith - ST's - Can (I will chip in for the plane ticket)

    Garrett Giemont - Conditioning Coord - Keep
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    SMH
     
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  13. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    AQL I'm going to have to disagree on Sarrett. Yes a case could be made for an ageing Line but if you look at the young guys and their development he hasn't done enough to advance their skills. He has also shown that he can't get guys ready for emergency duty as the numerous gaffes by Finney and Chuckes in backup roles especially Finney at center stand out more than age depleting skills.

    I talked about it the other day, that they seem to be acting like when Coach Z was the line coach with Faneca being the defacto coach and leader. They simply tuned the coach out.

    The game on Sunday AV wrongly identified the DT as needing a dbl team in the ZBS and left the edge rusher have a free release and shot at the QB. That should never happen. Unless of course you want to lose and get your QB killed. The two probowlers Pouncey and Decastro have whiffed multiple times on blocks at the second level on smaller DB'S. That should be called out in the film room. Banner for all his fan popularity is weak at the point of attack and with his size he should be throwing guys backwards.

    So Sarrett is just as culpable as the rest of the staff in dropping the ball in preparation.
     
  14. mytake

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - If the Steelers lose the last 3 of the season, what was a good season, becomes a meh for me. Keep, unless a team wants to give a 1st round pick for him, but only extend contract 1 year again.
    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - Depends on Tomlin situation, keep in organization

    Randy Fichtner, OC - Replace

    James Daniel - TE's - Indifferent
    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - Indifferent
    Shaun Sarrett - OL - Replace or get better players
    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - Replace
    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - Indifferent

    Keith Butler - DC- See what else is available, if not an upgrade, keep

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - Keep
    Tom Bradley - DB's - Keep
    Karl Dunbar - DL - Keep
    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - Keep

    Danny Smith - ST's - REPLACE

    Garrett Giemont - Conditioning Coord - A lot of injuries; how many were conditioning related? Re-Evaluate.
     
  15. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Popcorn :thumbs_up:

    Fitchner :thumbsdown: doesn't matter Ben calls what he wants

    Butler :thumbs_up:

    Smith :thumbsdown: who does this guy know?​
     
  16. AskQuestionsLater

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    Shaun really is dealing with forces he cannot control though in age. Yes, some of those gaffes you talked about were coaching. That said, that entire Offensive Line has been together when both Munchak and Sarrett were here. At some point, the players have to step up and create plays for the team; the Offensive Line in this case.



    They are the most experienced unit on that side of the ball. Those five have to lead by example via performance. Coaching will only do so much when an experienced group like Pittsburgh's Offensive Line is accounted for in scenarios like these.



    However, their age is showing; Big Al especially. Nevermind his leverage disadvantage, Big Al does not possess the same explosive kickslide like he used to. He can only kickslide just enough nowadays to prevent the opposing EDGE on his side bend the corner to a complete 90°. Maurkice has been injured again and Ramon is likely gone.



    Age affects performance. That said, no excuse the same. This unit has underperformed this season and must be retooled for Big Ben's heir apparent.



    I highly doubt the team wants to go through what it had when Ben was younger. For that matter, they cannot. Rebuild that line and let Shaun put his own staple on it. Judge his performance based on the performance from then on.
     
  17. NY STEELERFAN

    NY STEELERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - Keep
    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - Keep

    Randy Fichtner, OC - GONE GONE GONE.......PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!

    James Daniel - TE's - KEEP
    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - CAN GO EITHER WAY
    Shaun Sarrett - OL - KEEP, THIS GROUP NEEDS HELP BUT NOT COACHING HELP YOUTH HELP
    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - CAN CAN CAN.......WANT HIM GONE AS MUCH AS FITCHNER
    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - NOT ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE A DECISION

    Keith Butler - DC- KEEP

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - KEEP
    Tom Bradley - DB's - KEEP
    Karl Dunbar - DL - KEEP
    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - BYE BYE

    Danny Smith - ST's - BYE BYE JERRY O CAN DRIVE YA
     
  18. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Randy - replace
    Butler - don’t care
    Smith - replace
     
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  19. turtle

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - Keep
    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - keep??? no idea what he is responsible for

    Randy Fichtner, OC - Can, but injuries will delay any decisions and he'll be back next year

    James Daniel - TE's - Can
    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - Keep
    Shaun Sarrett - OL - Can, but they won't after 1 year
    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - Retain for TC but find a permanent replacement
    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - Can

    Keith Butler - DC- Can

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - Keep
    Tom Bradley - DB's - Keep
    Karl Dunbar - DL - Keep
    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - Keep

    Danny Smith - ST's - Keep

    Garrett Giemont - Conditioning Coord - Keep Most of the injuries cannot be prevented by him imo. JuJu, Ben, JC30 and Tuitt were all the results of contact during the game. Except Ben, but it seems that was going to happen anyway. If players were consistently pulling hammy's and things of that nature, then yes, that may be the result of poor training and/or stretching.
     
  20. Brandon556211

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    I’d give all my presents back to Santa if that meant he’d take Randy Fichtner with him.
     
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  21. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    Wipe slate clean including Colbert. :smiley1:

    Butler, to away.
    Sherman, go away.
    Jerry O, go away.
    Smith, go away.
    Colbert, go away.
    Daniels, retire.
    Sarrett, klemm, go away.
    Giamont, go away.
    Add, qb coach.
    :cool:
     
  22. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Mike Tomlin, HC - All depends what Washington /Carolina Due??? I am not a Mike Tomlin supporter
    John Mitchell, Asst. HC - Keep Loyality means something

    Randy Fichtner, OC - He has got to go, slight chance as long as #7 is here

    James Daniel - TE's - Can. You would think he would have some input to offensive play calling. We have 2 good TE
    Eddie Faulkner - RB's - Keep. RB's seem prepared?
    Shaun Sarrett - OL - Can, they have regressed under his responsibility.
    Ray Sherman - Interim WR's - Can. Has been for a long time.
    Adrian Klemm - Assistant Oline - Can. see Starret

    Keith Butler - DC- Can Lets try a different approach.

    Teryl Austin - Sr. D Assistant/secondary - Keep
    Tom Bradley - DB's - Keep
    Karl Dunbar - DL - Keep Young DL will need is help.
    Jerry Olsavsky Inside LB's - Keep Pitt man what can I say.

    Danny Smith - ST's - Can. Why has he had been employed for so long by Steelers?

    I left out the Strength and conditioning coach and all of the assistants. These are your 2019 Steelers main coaches and I'm not sure any of them are on the Hot Seat so to speak because of all the injuries so maybe I should throw the S & C coach out there too?

    Strength coach Can. Too many injuries. we can do better.
     

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