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O-line growing pains again?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by strummerfan, Mar 19, 2023.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what you were watching last season. I saw an offensive line that improved tremendously as last season went on. Doesn't the offensive line coach deserve some credit for that? I was critical of Meyer early last season, but I think we have to credit him for what he was able to do with the line as the season went on.

    Canada, however, does suck.
     
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  2. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    IMO, the 4th best OT is Darnell Wright and he could be a day 1 starter at RT. While secondary is position of need, we must invest in the OL or Picketts career will be a short one. Seumalo was an excellent acquisition and tells me the FO understands the need. I just hope they don't see that one FA pick up at LG as the silver bullet and then sit back. I know I've said this a lot, but the Chiefs got it right after losing the SB to the buccos BECAUSE of a crappy OL, they invested in it and made it one of the best in football in a single off season. They invested in an all pro LT in FA, another vet G, then drafted an all world C and hit a homerun with Trey Smith in Round 6.
     
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  3. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    I would put Darnell Wright at 4th and would take him or Jones in a heartbeat. As a UT Vols fan, I'm trying to not be too much of a homer but I think Wright is a can't miss that I would have called a sleeper but after the senior bowl and combine, he started raising eyebrows and is more on the radar now.
     
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  4. Karl

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    I like the addition of Isaac Seumalo and I see they have him penciled in for Left Guard currently.
    He has the ability to play Right guard as well (as he did previously). I feel much more comfortable with him protecting Kenny's backside than Herbig which was an improvement over Dotson.
    Either one helps Moore out, though I much prefer an OT from the draft replace him.
    The current penciled depth chart only has 2 starting OT's.

    Andy Weidl's influence is definitely showing.

    By default, improvement along the offensive line will all this offense to open the playbook to slower developing downfield plays.
    Especially if they clear holes for the running game to collect 100yds+.
    Last season, our offense started owning time of possession as the offensive line started clicking together. Still, during that time, the weak links were not hard to point out.
     
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  5. mikeyg

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    they did improve - greatly in the 2nd half but competition also weakened. BUT - now we are tweaking it again. I am being somewhat facetious, but still we won't be dominating by any stretch. that is due to Cana-duh.
     
  6. Jammasterc

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    He also said he could kick too Hahahahahahaha!
     
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  7. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    There were times when at their peak, the Ravens running game could not be stopped even though everyone knew it was coming. The same thing could be said about the Eagles last year. Granted, the Steelers will not be using the QB run like either of those teams but the point is that the offense doesn't always need to be complex to be successful. We all understand that Canada is pedestrian but a punishing run game will go a long way to getting this team moving in the right direction.
     
  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    Agreed with Wright being fourth. Jones does have a case but I believe Wright is more versatile than others give him credit for.
     
  9. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Definitely. He is strong, quick feet, and smart. Played through a lot of adversity at UT due to teammate injuries along the OL and constant coaching change ups.
     
  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I have also thought, and worried about this...
    I'm hoping...being His second year as a OL coach, having the actual same Qb, and knowing how that went last year help in speeding up the cohesion of the line quicker than last year.
    So again....I guess I'm just hoping. :shrug:
     
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  11. Brice

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    We do not have a single backup tackle under contract...... Is there any chance Dotson can move to tackle?

    I read some draft talk about how Peter Skoronski may have to move to Guard in the NFL because his arms are too short?
    Skoronski measured in at 6-foot-4, 313 pounds at the NFL Scouting Combine Sunday, but his arm length was just 32 ¼ inches. Ideally, NFL teams like their offensive tackles to have 34-inch arms or longer to be better able to get their hands on pass rushers early on the edge. I am assuming this is the crazy reason why mock drafts post combine now have Skoronski as the 3rd Tackle off the board.

    I see online reports of Kevin Dotson having 33" Arms; if that is a thing.
     
  12. CK 13

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    The most important piece is protecting the future a Mr. Kenny Pickett.

    Brian Baldinger ex NFL Offensive Lineman, broadcaster and analyst was talking on 93.7 The Fan Pittsburgh and said he liked both of the guard additions and said that Moore plays stiff and gets handled by speed rushers. And said Danial's needs to improve.

    They need to draft a Franchise Left Tackle at 17. Moore can be the primary back up. Then corner, Defensive Tackle.
     
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  13. SGSteeler

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    No, Dotson can't move to tackle. We will either draft one or sign a cheap veteran. We just don't have that person on the roster right this second.

    Yeah, the arm length on Skoronski is definitely the reason why some mocks have him going later than originally thought. Some teams may only view him as a Guard bc of it. I wouldn't be against taking him and playing him at T
     
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  14. S.T.D

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    And We have .....I repeat....No Starting CBs except for an over 30 year old player that has been busted once with PEDs.
    You people do realize You need more than one CB???
    Seems a bunch aren't worried about that, but are worried about having backups at every possible position, but careless about having starters at CB.
     
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  15. Brice

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    You keep saying this, but my little chart that shows we currently have NO Backup Tackles, and then it shows that we have both starting CBs, and Backup CBs currently on the team.

    No faith in Wallace who seemed to come on strong down the back stretch after getting the start when Witherspoon failed. 4 Ints
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  16. oldschool

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    I also don’t feel like they had a plan or identity and didn’t know the direction they were heading with the QB. I can only hope they have a very solid and cohesive plan this season.

    Free agency is leading me to believe there is regarding offense. Canada is is becoming a bigger and bigger X-factor. He’s getting his tools.

    The defense just seems like they are trying to hold on to what they had and inch forward a bit. Until they strike gold at ILB with at least one player nothing seems on solid ground. Too much shifting.
     
  17. oldschool

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    How come you keep glossing over Levi Wallace?

    Ditch Mitch and sign Roc-Ya Sin and then draft a CB at 49 to learn from P2.
     
  18. HeinzMustard

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    This is some serious hyperbole. The CB room is already better than it was last year with the addition of Peterson. Peterson + Wallace + early draft pick = 2023 CBs > 2022 CBs
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    I don't think they are ditching Trubisky at this point, with most of the free agent backup quarterbacks already signed elsewhere. I do like the idea of signing Roc-Ya Sin.
     
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  20. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Would be a solid addition but will cost more then are willing to pay at this point I believe. Reports are 9 miil per year. Waive Ahkello Witherspoon and save 4 mill which would be a good start.
     
  21. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    levi wallace isn't chopped liver. :cool:
     
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  22. THREE RIVER SHIVER

    THREE RIVER SHIVER Well-Known Member

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    Agree ... this DEFENSE needs to be injected with some young talent in all 3 phases. ..
     
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  23. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    cody mauch is in the same boat. 32-3/8" arms. short arms allow the defenders to get hold inside and move these guys. longer arm DE's and OLB'ers can better control these types. not saying they are bad players but it does usually make a difference. :cool:
     
  24. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see growing pains I see effort to improve.

    Lot of these guys Dotson, Green, Dan Moore really have been playing out of necessity. Like I don't think Dotson or Moore are crap like some think, serviceable guys, but will they ever be a Pro-Bowl level guys more than likely no...

    Because Steelers had no Cap space to sign FA O-Line people. They do now.

    Now people will be pushed and competition breeds excellence, so I like it. Guys won't just be handed a spot because there isn't crap to be had there.
     
  25. oldschool

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    I know but the just aren’t listening to ME!!!

    It’s like they are related to my wife or something. Sheesh…
     
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