Nobody likes their OC

Exactly my friend, exactly!!! Well said!!!

 

With the possible exception of the Eagles, you did not name a consistently scary offense.

Were there many calls from Pakcers fans? Saints fans? Patriots fans?

 

In the case of those three the head coach is the primary game planner and takes responsibility for calling plays during the game. I was amazed last year that in one series against the Ravens, That Payton used 15 different personnel packages just to see how the Ravens would respond and then adapted his game plan to that during the game. We all know about how Bilichick beaks down tape almost OCD like and how he controls all aspects of the game. AS far as GB goes I think the communication between McCarthy and Rodgers is one of those things that really aides QB play. My point here is you probably don't hear about OC impact on those teams because their role is different than on the Steelers.

 

"Nobody"? Just a hunch but I bet these teams "like" their OC :


1 Green Bay Packers 34.3 Points per game
2 New Orleans Saints 33.5 PPG
3 New England Patriots 30.9 PPG
4 Detroit Lions 28.9 PPG
5 Carolina Panthers 25.9 PPG

These teams have no more talent on O than we do, and probably have less. But they do have OC's that can game plan and call plays that work.

:FBAI!:

 

I would trade Cam Cameron straight up for BA. Problem is, even the rats HC and FO aren't that stupid.

 

i was thinking the same thing. i cant imagine too many Packer, Saint or Pats fans complaining about their ocordinator.

all team struggle at times. i just keep thinking that through 15 games the Steelers offense hasnt hit its stride yet. they havent peaked too early. i think we will see signs of their offense looking very strong on Sunday and come playoff time is really the only time it matters anyways.

 

good quote I believe what you say....as long as we win the BA stuff will die down

 

Couldn't find a throw-up emoticon but I guess this one will do. It's bad enough when 75% of the fanbase want our OC gone and recognize he's not getting the job done. It's even worse when the fans of our bitter rivals can even see it.

 

As the poster above said even Rats fans know BA can't coach......

Also to the point of our ranking in passing and running ,,,this is exactly why the BA stuff doesn't work becauese the stats prove we can move the ball in wide open spaces ,but when we get down to scoring the rock we can't at the same rate as many other Teams with far less talent....

I will use 1 Team to make comparisons the Panthers...to get it started ask yourself where they would be if they had our D???When I do that I see a Team that is 15-1 or 14-2 with a rookie QB that a lot of peeps thought couldn't even play QB in the NFL.....

Well he can't playexactly the same as most ,but can be very effective if the scheme is right.....this is the point where BA fails with Big Ben he is the 2nd. highest rated PA pass QB in the NFL ,but has like 80 less PA attempts than Rogers.....To make that even worse look at GB'S Defense compared to ours ?We should be the ones using more run and more PA because we have the D to back it up.......

Anyway back to the Cam part the OC knew the best way to use Cam was Zone read and Zone read pass and that Cam is a great runner and needs to use those abilities.....

So ask yourselfs what are Ben's best abilities?What the stats show and what I can see on tape is his PA ability,his ability to trow the ball on the run,and his abilty to pump fake ,plus he is good at breaking tackles and extending the play.....

I have listed those in order of the ones that are the most useful 1st. to devising a game plan.....So #1 we need to run the ball more and run to more holes to set up more PA looks.....Fail BA...
#2 his abilty to throw on the run ,,,hardly ever do we use sprint out pockets or bootlegs which should tie directly into #1 ,but no,,,again Fail BA...
#3 the use of the pump fake,,is not smart to use that in the pocket without extra help on the backside,is also a bad ideal to design multiple long routes without using a Triangle method or a Stair tree such as 1 option at 5,1 at 15, and 1 at 20 on the same side of the field this is where the RB'S and TE'S can be used greatly also off the same pa looks and get all the elgibles on the same hash in an effort to get Ben outside and stretch the D...again fail BA
As to the breaking tackles part....This also directly ties into the other 3 do those get Ben outside vs. smaller guys increase his chance of extending the play,and decrease his chances of strip sacks at this point the speed guys really become a thing of beauty because now you have forced 1 on 1 put ben in the best position and have 3 or so routes triangled or stair stepped so now that speed can run in behind it or simply tear up the middle coming into Ben'S Vision later and probably for a huge play.....Do we do that ??Nope so again I say BA fail.......And these types of things are exactly why we have trouble scoring the ball and other Teams with less talent score at a higher rate ,,,because the attack matches the personnel this is what I expect from an OC and we are not even close by any standard....
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Methinks the Packers, Saints and Pats fans are too busy complaining about their Defensive Coordinators.

 

Please just stop posting stuff like this. Your spouting off way too much common sense and logic for some on here to understand

 

Cameron is a better OC than BA - maybe not worlds better, but better than BA nonetheless. Rats fans seem to be unrealistic about their talent level. I didn't say that to mean that Cam is the best OC in the world. But rather to illustrate that having the 2nd worse OC would be better than having the worst. And yes, there is hyperbole in this very post as well. It was a joke, genious! You should know by now that I like to joke.

Anyhoo....

F.B.A.I.

 

This sums it up pretty well.

I have no problem with the Packers, Saints, and Pats scoring more than the Steelers. But I have a BIG problem seeing Detroit and Carolina putting up more ppg than the Steelers. Again, a stinging indictment of Arians.

 

Sorry Super Genius! My bad...