No Turnovers No Sacks Again!!!!!!!

I know this has probably been brought up already but how is this happeneing? I just can't understand it... Someone for the life of me please explain why we can't sack the QB or get a turnover...These are things that can chqange a game and momentum and its just not happeneing. One other thing I can't fathom either is if we are going to pass on 1st down and it's incomplete then why do we always run on 2nd and 10 for 1 yard and set ourselves up for 3rd and long???

 

this team has become soft we are getting push around for a while

 

Actually thought we had good pressure on Dalton and there were several deflected balls and errant throws that could have been picked. Given the offense ineptness and how much the D was on the field, I thought they did a good enough job to help us win that game.

17 offensive points in 2 games, where only 10 were meaningful, is a bigger problem.

 

shhh, dont say anything bad about the defense. you might upset some people around here.

 

Was waiting for someone to say this. Absolutely true. The top 5 QB's would have lit this D up last night. Fact is, DL's D is give up the 10 yard passes all the way up and down the field and hope to hold to 3. And get a sack if possible. It does not call for press coverage and therefore does not cause turnovers. It literally is pitch and catch for the opposing offense, and then assume our DB's can tackle. Ike had a pretty good game yesterday but even he would have gotten boat rolled by a good QB. Dalton was terrible. This D hasn't had "luck" with T/O's the past 3 yrs becasue it is not designed to ever get them. That is a problem in today's NFL. Love DL just like everyone else, and the offense is certainly a much bigger problem, but something needs to change on D. Not sure what that is exactly.

 

The D gave up a 127 yards on the ground, stopping the run has always been a steeler defensive mainstay, now that's gone, the bears are going to grind us up on the ground with their beast forte, 0-3 is next up, cutler has a good receiver corp with their big receiver marshall , this is going to be painful to watch, but picking very high in this next draft will go a long way in rebuilding this team, and yes this team is in transition whether tomlin wants to admit it or not....

 

They are not trying to strip the ball. They had several ball carriers stood up and nobody is tugging at the ball.

Dick Lebeau (I love him to death) haven't came up with a exotic blitz scheme in over two years. At least Marvin Lewis and Rob Ryan are trying to disguise and send someone.

And if i see that cross-dog blitz one more time I think i'm going to lose another tv. it doesn't work anymore. They just run right into the lineman.

 

Couldn't agree more. Plus we don't have the corners to play man defense. So, DL wants to protect them from getting beat deep but sometimes you have to take chances to get a turnover.

 

That blitz up the middle let me see the last time that worked L. Kirkland was manning the middle. The godfather of the zone blitz....are you sure? I think this team needs to be way more aggressive and take way more chances especially with the O being as bad as it is. I'd much rather die a fast death than a slow torturous one. We need to mix up our coverages better. The constant cushions gotta go.

 

If the offense was capable of a first down at least every other drive, then the Defense wouldn't look so good. But I don't see where you can hang any of the 20 points the D gave up on the offense this week.

 

Because the offense could not sustain any drives longer than maybe 5 plays. We were horrible on third down (3/12) I think. The d is not getting a break before they are back on the field.

 

Somebody please explain to me why Ike Taylor still gives an 8 yard cushion on 3rd and 2?

That's a quick hitch every time. Usain Bolt wouldn't even have enough time to get to the QB.

 

I agree with that, but at the same time, they gave up a ton of yards. They are expected to play 60 minutes also

 

In today's NFL you're gonna give up yards. The rules are stacked against them. It just goes to show you how piss poor our offense is. They can't even get a first down

 

Just run a curl or quick out and you can shred this secondary all day long. Our LB's can't cover and our DB's play too far off the receiver's. Same story, different season. All the opposing QB needs is 2-3 seconds to make that happen as long as the WR's run crisp routes.

 

Yeah and we should be doing the same

 

Agreed. 1-2-3, the ball needs to be out of his hands. Either to a receiver or out of play. Ben is not the same QB he was 5 years ago. Except the part where he holds the ball too damn long.....

 

When your defense holds the other teams to less than 15 pts a game 90% of the time, you are not suppose to lose many games. You cant win football games kicking field goals. Our defense played 40 more downs last night than the offense.

 

Since there are plenty of threads talking about our woeful offense, I will keep on subject about the defense. I think our issue is personnel. We have spent a lot of draft picks on our D line but I think we would all agree that we had a better D line 5 years ago. We are not as strong against the run anymore. We don't have LB'ers that can rush the QB. Woodley is not the same, Harrison is gone. Jarvis Jones may be the real deal, but he is just getting started. Our D backfield is pretty old and geared more to a physical style that is now punished by the NFL. Put that all together and it is no mystery that DL is playing it conservative - he doesn't have the talent to take as many chances.

 

I agree with some of what you said but I think Woodley (if healthy) will be okay. Jarvis Jones will be okay.

I was never in favor of drafting Ziggy Hood or Cam Heyward in the first round. Especially for what we require our defensive lineman to do. Aaron Smith, Brett Kiesel. Von Offhoffen where all late round picks or undrafted free agents. Now look at them, after 4 years or 3 years we still don't know what we have in Ziggy or Cam. Hell, Woods was a 4th round pick and out shining both of them.

Ike Taylor may have two years left. Clark maybe a year and Polomalu maybe a year or two. We struck gold with Cordez Allen but after that our corners need work. Brown is a bust and we let Keenan Lewis walk out the door. Sharmarko Thomas looks okay but I worry about his height. Hopefully Cromatie-Smith sees the light and becomes productive. Isiah Green and the rest of the bench....well, lets hope no one at corner gets hurt this year.