NFL Statement of the Hail Mary on MNF

Oh...on that I agree....Tate easily pushed off.....but that goes to the argument we had last week....on review...they reviewed possession...not holding, or pass interference.

HACK

 

Agree with everything so far.... but Tennessee tried that ole bat the ball to the ground trick and it didn't work so well. Fortunately for them, they pulled out a win.

As far as what everyone is "hearing"... Mike and Mike, well they are talk show guys and they bring on "former" experts. These catching rules changed drastically last year (or year before I can't remember), so being a "former" anything does not necessarily make them an expert on the matter. And for that matter, for every analyst with one opinion.... I'm sure you can find another with the exact opposite opinion.

 

yes....Tenn got one...and the Immaculate reception happened too.....but those rarely if ever happen.....thats why every DB from Pop Warner to NFL level are taught to bat it down...because more often than not...that will win the game.

HACK

 

I wasn't referring to a replay though. You stated it's basically GB's fault for not knocking the ball down instead of trying to intercept the pass, and i'm saying the refs are still to blame for not calling offensive pass interference.

 

Again....remember the official NFL replay officials are not replacements...they watched the replay and decided simultaneous catch.....I agree Tate pushed off...but push offs (maybe not as blatant as Tates) are missed every game...every year...no matter who throws the flags.

HACK

 

Did they? I honestly don't remember how they worded their decision. And the wording is key. Did they say the call was confirmed or did they say the call stands? Because they would need conclusive evidence to overturn the call and the call on the field was simultaneous catch.

 

Just watched NFL Network. They said possession is reviewable in the EZ. They also went back (I can't remember how many) years and looked at how many PIs were called on hail Mary's at the end of games and NOT A SINGLE TIME was it been called int the last (however many) years.

 

Offensive Pass Interference is the Stegasaurus of Penalties. You almost never, EVER, see it. Hell, nearly every game, I see WR run into a DB, and the call is nearly always illegal contact or DPI. This predates the replacement refs. So these guys not calling it in the GB/SEA game is not news worthly

 

i agree fully. that picture above is after the call when the GB player is rolling over trying to pull it away. the play was over by then. TD.

 

This place is a mess! What's with all the non Steelerts related stuff in the Steelers talk section?

 

Here's a pretty good analysis of the play:

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/201 ... rule-book/

I don't think this play was as "bad" as the media, especially ESPN, has made it out to be. The overreaction is stunning. In some of the shots in the above link, it sure looks to me like Tate has just as much control as jennigs does, when Tate's rear hits the ground. Everyone is throwing their arms up over the possession that took place AFTER that.

 

Nevermind already covered by another poster

Not a great pic, because that was after contact with the ground and him leveraging the ball away because he was on top. A better pic would be them mid air or coming down. I think that's a cal the receiver gets 65-35% of the time...thems the breaks.

I mentioned Heath M had one taken away in the middle of the field when he clearly had possesion and landed on his head with his arms tucked in and the ball as described. Normally even if it's a close one, tie goes to receiver...not in his case though..

Hell there are people who argue against the Offensive pass interference on WR Darrell Jackson in the Superbowl and that was clear as day as well. These are the same people screaming PI now!
Hmmm...Seattle gets away with a PI and gets a controversial catch? Say it ain't so!!

 

I guess I should have put LoL after my post as I found it kinda funny. To be fair though at the time I posted there was five threads on the front page that were'nt Steeler related.

 

Lol!!!!!!

 

I agree with this. If that wasn't an INT and a blatant Offensive PI, then this game that we so love has become unwatchable. This scab ref situation needs to get un-f#@ked immediately.

 

I must be the only person in America who doesn't see this as so controversial. It probably was a bad call, but it seems that the one angle of this play that ESPN and other media outlets are ignoring is this one:

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You want to tell me that you are prepared to say, based on looking at just these two shots, and there are others from this view that further muddy the matter, that you are 100% sure that this was a horribly botched call??? I'm not anymore. I am failry certain that Jennings had "more possession" than Tate did. But "more posession" isn't in the rule book. Posession can be established with just one arm. Correct? So the fact that Jennings has hands on the ball and that Tate has one, and that the other is "sort of" on the ball, doesn't matter. Tate has his AT LEAST his left hand/arm on that ball, and it's not until after he hits the ground that Jenning's leverage takes over.

There is a major freak out going on over this call, but I can tell you: I have seen many worse calls than this.

 

A play from last yeer with no controversy....http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-high ... -jump-ball

Exclusive footage from another angle in the Endzone....http://www.q13fox.com/sports/football/s ... 1209.story

A good point, how was he not able to rip it away if Tate didn't have possesion too?

Non-issue for me, yeah they missed the OPI, so what?