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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by petekoutromanos, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. petekoutromanos

    petekoutromanos Well-Known Member

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    A part of me wants to believe that the NFL is a real sport, but the older I get, the more obvious it is the NFL is a genius money making machine soap opera. Its funny how they need the drama, and how a lot of fans are blind and how they fool you. Its not about the game anymore its about the story lines and the build up for TV ratings. They need the good guys which are obviously the Patriots, for example Tom Brady goes off on his offensive coordinator but he is deemed a competitor, the pundits twist it and make you believe he is just a fierce competitor. When AB does it,hes deemed a thug, maybe cuz hes black. It seems like the media always is trying to paint the steelers out as thugs, they take snib bits from players interviews and make a mountain out of a mole hill. Martavios Bryant went thru a lot with the weed thing,got his **** together and wants to get paid ,who wouldn't, he wasn't being used, he knows his window to get paid is small so he voiced something about it, and the media ran away with it. Gronk does a WWF move on a player its get talked about a little but swept under the rug. JUJU makes a block which many of players have done but they twist it to a suspension. Anything Ben says always gets twisted to make out to be a villain, but theres nothing Brady can say or do, hes always the best. Lets go to coaches, Belicheck, is always talked about as the best,and Tomlin is a thug, I guess again the black thing, even though the guy is always saying and doing the right things.

    The way the NFL is now, they have so many penalty flags in their toolbox, they can easily dictate the game. Offensive holding, defensive holding can be called on every play. Then they add cant touch QB, PI and on and on. They use all these to draw interest to get the highest TV ratings possible just like a TV show, they could care less who wins and looses ,they want the drama. Certain teams ,players ,circumstances draw higher ratings especially during the playoffs and Super Bowl. Hence, that's why there was the Saints after Katrina, the Harbaugh Bowl, Bettis retiring, Ray Lewis retiring, 16 and 0 patriots but loose to the Giants, lights going out during Super Bowl etc. People say why would Godelle want to give Brady the trophy etc he could give a rats ass who he gives it to. They are hyping up the Patriots dynasty, Bradys legacy as one of the best all time and you get to witness it.The Falcons won that Super Bowl but outside of Atlanta who would of cared but the greatest comeback etc is way bigger story. The Steelers are a better team than the Patriots especially this year and many other years prior. The Bengals a few years ago were better team than us, but I guess the Steelers had a bigger draw, same with the Chiefs playoffs last year, they tied us, but they gave us a BS holding call in which you can call on every play. Its not rigged in the nature that the players are acting, they are playing, the coaches are coaching but the unfair part comes from the refs, who are NFL hitmen carrying on their goal. A few years ago I remember a game where the Steelers needed the Chiefs or Chargers to win I forget who, and the team we needed actually should have won but they refs botched a call and cost us the playoffs, it was so apparent to me then as it is now. My thought would be, you should consider the NFL as entertainment and not a sport, stop buying this crap they are selling. I know I'm gonna get the aluminum foil hat comments etc, but just open your eyes, they want ratings and don't care which market,team etc wins
     
  2. sjromano

    sjromano Well-Known Member

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    I understand the frustration behind what you're saying - but I'm wondering when Tomlin and AB were labeled as "thugs" by the media? I've never heard that... perhaps other teams' fans, but not the media.
     
  3. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Oh bs. The only people that made AB out to be a thug or more accurately a cancer were steeler fans. There are way too many people employed by the NFL, subcontractors etc to keep it being rigged under wraps. All it takes is one disgruntled player, former coach, ref, secretary.... and the whole thing is blown wide open. Have you launched your flat earth rocket yet?
     
  4. petekoutromanos

    petekoutromanos Well-Known Member

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    Your blind to the obvious, that was a TD ,the ball never hit the ground,even though it moved so how is that an incompletion? The Super Bowl last year, all the falcons had to do is kick a field goal and its game over but no, lets make it drama,cmon stop and look, it seems like a game, you want to beleive it, but in the back of your head you need to question it, if we win, playoffs go thru Pitt, theres no way NE has a chance, now they build the drama up for round 2, wake up
     
  5. aces4me

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    I haven't watch WWE for 45 years because I came to understand it was scripted about the time I hit 13. If you think the NFL is scripted why the hell would you watch it? It isn't BTW but people will and do believe all kinds of crazy things.
     
  6. petekoutromanos

    petekoutromanos Well-Known Member

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    i guess i have gotten use to watching,and i have fhe need to watch sports,instead of going apple picking with my wife,but if you think this flat out real, your a fool,even in small businesses theres crooked crap going on if u think its not in a billions dollars a year businrss u r crazy,just explain to me the Jesse James catch ,how is that incomplete,his hand is always under the ball who cares if it moved i dont get it,the ball never hits the ground,
     
  7. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I’m pretty sure your wife doesn’t want you to go apple picking. That way she doesn’t have to talk to you.
     
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  8. Roonatic

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    If the outlaw was a pro-bowler he would have been given a touchdown. I know they would have given it to Mongo.
     
  9. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Well, My wife watches soap operas and on the few days that I have nothing going on and it is on the TV I can easily fall asleep. The game Sunday, I thought about smashing my TV. Don't really think it's the same. At least for me it isn't.
     
  10. CK 13

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    Pete, I agree with you about the drama. I'm tired of it. The NFL Network is the worst. I don't get it anymore and I don't miss it. To much oversaturation. I rarely watch any pre game. And yes I question the zebras, and not only the crew when were playing. My level of interest has slipped over the years of watching other games. I have been a life long Steelers fan so win or lose I bleed. My musical writing partner wrote this line in a song we composed together:
    "Money and power corrupts everything"

    Now they split the screens to add in another stupid commercial. Someone said on this board soon it will be a split screen. Even with all the late hits, hits to the head ect. goodell and his band of goons love it. Drama sells. As far as being fixed, only the zebras can be bought. And possibly certain players. I question this with point spreads. Lots of money to be made. Their is to much going on to script every single play on a football field to have the total fix. I live in reality and have questioned. But I still love watching my Steelers even if they have cost me a few years off of my life.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Insult people with this inane drivel and you can post elsewhere. You've been peddling this garbage for years and you're still watching. You don't believe your own silliness.
     
  12. Bradydaphonedestroyer

    Bradydaphonedestroyer Well-Known Member

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    NFL= WWE..it's all about the $$$
     
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  13. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    tl;dr
     
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  14. shaner82

    shaner82 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you. It's about time this guy get called out on his nonsense posts. It's getting ridiculous.

    Here's a tip to all you people who think the NFL is rigged, stop watching it and stop coming here. Do the rest of us a favour because this crap is getting annoying. Some of you sound like a bunch of children. I've never seen so much whining after a game in my life. Calls have gone against us over the years and we've benefited from just as many.

    Go to other teams message forums and the rest of the league (literally) thinks the NFL loves us and the refs favour us every game. The Steelers are one of the leagues prized possessions and the Rooneys are one of the most respected owners in the league. Enough with the whining.
     
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  15. Ender

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    I don't think the games are "rigged" if by that you mean the outcomes are pre-determined.

    However, I know that NFL does determine the length of suspensions it hands down. I also know that Gronk's attack on a defenseless player who was already on the ground well after the whistle is far worse than Juju's two inch too-high (otherwise clean) block in the middle of a play. Yet according to the NFL those two infractions are equal.

    There was no way the NFL was gonna have Gronk miss this game. It may not even be a pro-Patriots bias in this instance. It could be completely motivated by ratings and the revenues generated by those ratings. This was a showcase game for the league so they needed the star players to play.

    So in that sense the NFL does "rig" things.
     
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  16. Ender

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    Here's a more interesting question:

    If there is not a pro-Patriots bias (whether it's mandated by the NFL or just some select rogue referees), how do the Steelers get better at offensive holding and defensive PI?

    I saw tons of both committed by the Patriots. Yet miraculously they were only called for two penalties totaling 4 yards. Neither of which was holding or PI.

    So if there's no bias, how did they not get penalized? Munch is supposed to be the best O-line coach in the world but I guess there's something Belichek knows that Munch doesn't? Some technique that Munch doesn't know about perhaps?

    In all seriousness how do the Steelers get better at it? If it's a technique the Patriots use that makes it possible to commit those infractions without getting flagged the Steelers should learn it too.
     
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  17. thesteeldeal

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    Maybe I'm missing something but how do you get 2 penalties for 4yards when one was a false start which is 5 yards so they got another penalty for plus 1 yard....interesting. Also I thought if a player runs out of bounds and is first to touch it there is a yardage penalty attached and loss of down....still don't understand how you get a penalty for + 1yd

    Thomas Davis 2 games Gronk 1 cmon you can't tell me somethings not up....if they had Cleveland between our game he would of got 2 ...you know it. And that is rigging and favoritism that can't be denied with any common sense
     
  18. Ender

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    I don't understand it either. I thought it may be a typo on the Steelers website, but it still says it 2 days later :shrug:
     
  19. petekoutromanos

    petekoutromanos Well-Known Member

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    You guys are missing the point ,its not scripted,every play,i think the players are really playing their ass off,theres no way you script some of the things they are doing on the field,no doubt the coaches are coaching im not denying that, i dont think its about rigging for betting either a las vegas thing. I think its much bigger,its about the billiins they make off the tv deals which benefits all,owners ,players coaches and down the line. My thing is these refs which are employed by the league have instructions, and now its more evident with the way the league controls replay.The diffrence between 1st and 10 and 1st and 20 is huge,that can kill a drive,a defensive hold on 3rd and 18 becomes a first down,so they have these in their toolbox to push the flow of the game in the direction they want.When the outcome they dont want happens ,they come up with all this mumbo jumbo explanations and your left scratching your head.I sensed something stinky on our next to last drive when we got that holding call,we were driving all game pretty much ,if we would have taken it down and scored a field goal ,game over.Last super bowl i remember the pateiots were giving 3 times a defensive holding on 3rd down,eventually they will gey the ball moving,it so happened he got intercepted. Same with us against the Bengals, we always seem to get the calls in favor for us,just like the Patriots do against us.Think about the playoff game vs the cheifs last year,that was a ticky taki call hold against Harrison he even admitted it,but if they tie us go to overtime and beat us,the AFC Championship is chiefs vs patriots its not as sexy,the ratings wouldnt be as high, and they dont get paid.

    Again im not saying its mob rigged for betting,i think its for ratings,thats way more money invovled then betting.Plus these billionare owners probably own all tjese companies we are watching these commercials of.I love football and i love my steelers ever since i was 10 since i saw my first game 1984 Terry Bradshaw Steelers vs Jets,this NFL isnt the same,they have ruined it,with the commercials, replays,penalties and so on.You think these owners care about players getting concussed,yeah right ,they look at them like horses,and the players know ,thays why they want to get paid as much as possible,i dont blame them.The diffrence in talent on every team is so minimal these days,and a knudging here or there by the refs ,can make Cleveland 16 and 0 beleive that, but who outside of Cleveland wants to see the Browns.
     
  20. thesteeldeal

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    Actually it's a technique that's very easy to learn.....it's called lookin the other way and they have taught the refs well....
     
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  21. defva

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    Amen!!
     
  22. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    Simply put....the pats, ravens and cowboys get away with nurder. This is why ...when there boys get in trouble with Baddell (because there is nothing good about him) they kick up a big fuss. Last year....kraft stop speaking to baddell...lol
    This year Jerry Jones want baddell fired...lol...how dare he suspend one of my guys. Its pityful and shameful in whst this league has become
     
  23. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I'm starting to drink the Koolaid! Site Admin

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    I dunno. It's a 5-yard penalty. They got it when on their own 16, so there wasn't any "half the distance to the goal" magic.

    ARTICLE 8. ILLEGAL TOUCHING OF A FORWARD PASS [LINK]
    It is a foul for illegal touching if a forward pass (legal or illegal), thrown from behind the line of scrimmage:

    1. is first touched intentionally or is caught by an originally ineligible offensive player; or
      Penalty: Loss of five yards.

    2. first touches or is caught by an eligible receiver who has gone out of bounds, either of his own volition or by being legally forced out of bounds, and has re-established himself inbounds.
      Penalty: Loss of down.
     
  24. aces4me

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    Number 2 applied is this case so lose of down was correct.
     
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  25. thesteeldeal

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    Thanks...
     

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