NFL ready rookies?

I am going to throw this question out there for those of you who are more into the draft than I am. We discussed at work and didn't come up with much. When was the last time a top ten draft pick really came in and lit the league on fire besides Andrew Luck? The reason I ask is that there is a lot of emphasis being put on this years Steeler's draft as one to really get starter quality players but is it realistic to thing they could be ready this year or even next year for the speed and complexity of the game? My coworkers and i could only really think of AP and that was what 8 years ago? I mean yes Cam Newton enjoyed some rookie success but I think it can be argued that was due in equal parts to teams not knowing what to do with a running QB and his talent. There have been player that came in and enjoyed success but not to the degree I would call lighting the league on fire. Has there been someone?

 

I think they made significant contributions as well but I would like to see fans temper their expectations of a rookie draft and have them look at last year and say yes we would like more of that instead of we need a first round grand slam player to fill a team need. Those players are few and far between. For every Luck there are five Geno Torrettas', Ryan Leafs', Kijana Carters' and Lawrence Phillips.

 

I agree BF and thorn.

i believe there are a lot of good players coming out early every year too, and I don't think they are quite as seasoned for this level. soph. and juniors. I know it was always thought of getting them early you could keep them longer. I think they are athletic but the haven't developed fully into completed players yet. it hurt the draft I think. quality anyway.

seniors and 5th year seniors may be the better way to go. how many of these younger receivers have never run the full route tree in college? now they are going into the pros.

free agency has caused the team that drafts them so much money to keep them, and run into the cap trouble we have, or you lose them so what makes the difference if you get them young? seems like the older they get to you, the longer they may want to settle down at one place and be easier to re-sign. not to mention they have seen more coaching and knowledge of the game and just experience. I also consider intelligence. the smarter we can get them the better. academic all-American vs a guy with a similar talent that spent two years in JR. college because he didn't have the grades and guess who I'd want if I were kev and MT or the rooney's?

it's not always they didn't play rookies much and took them 3 years to see the field, they may have had a hard time learning it because they weren't smart enough. pro teams want the thinking to become automatic.

we also draft these guys that are so position flexible. what about more guys that can do one thing well. DD. he's a smart, right guard. that's where he played in college and now in the pros. he's going to end up real good at that spot. don't move him around. most guys in the middle of those lines really don't set the league on fire anyway, and that's good.

i'll take 22 heath millers and then you'd have a good team. humble , tough, smart and good. look at beachum, he's a guy taking the league by storm. a 6-3 late 7th rd.LT protecting a franchise QB. that's pretty impressive. AB, a guy that was the first ever to have 1,000 return yards and 1,000 rec. yards in a season. we got some guys. we'll find more I hope. they are rare.

 

How does Torretta get lumped in with those other guys? He was a 7th round pick.

 

Herman trophy winner part of two national championship teams and wasn't drafted until the seventh round then. Never started a single game in his NFL career. The common theme in the four examples I chose was not what round they were taken in but that they were very successful college players who never saw the same success in the pro's.

 

When I think of Steelers I think of Alan Faneca, Maurkice Pouncey, David DeCastro and Heath Miller off the top of my head. I think those guys were NFL ready. Jarvis Jones was supposed to be plug and play last year according to some analysts but that didn't pan out.

 

Some guys get drafted into situations where they can succeed early, others don't. It happens. If we drafted Keenan Allen, he wouldn't have gained 1000 yards since he would have been our 4th option behind AB Sanders and Cotch. Might've earned a 3rd option by the end of the season. It's all about who has the best opportunities and who capitalizes on them .

The point is that we have some positions to be filled where a good rookie can have the opportunity to succeed. CB, 2nd option RB, WR, DE... All of these are positions where we will see a rookie have a chance to deliver in a big way for us in 2014. Idc who it is, just get some play makers in here and let them do their thing!

 

If they draft Dennard, Gilbert, or Evans at #15 these guys will play a lot as rookies or start.

 

It seems Bill Belecheck seems
to be able to find playing time right away for his players drafted. He doesn't buy
into this stupid philosophy that it takes 3 years
to be ready to play a game most players
have played their whole life.

 

What did the Emperor use to say,
football is really not that difficult,
You block and you tackle. can you beat
the man in front of you? Do you see Darrelle
Revis fit any scheme? No because he can
play anything, he can cover his man 1 on1.
and that's what football players are suppose to do. None of this BS smoke and mirrors. This
holds true at any position.

 

Using this as a criteria. The most NFL ready pick and BPA available at 15 would probably be Aaron Donald.

 

I'd be good with that. our new NT.

 

You know you might be on to something,
being a Pitt man I am biased.I think your right.

 

the steelers brought him in for a visit already. you don't have to be a big sumo to play NT. quickness and demanding help for the center because of quickness is just as effective.

 

Will The Penn Hills Indian be wearing black and gold? Remember MT blew the chance on Revis. Maybe the Rooney's
are asking hey why are we
passing on this
homegrown talent?BPA philosophy
anyone.

 

Zackly!

They did just sign Allen so I don't know how that shuffles their line around.....