NFL May Ban Hip Drop Tackle

You are 100% correct. Doesn't mean I gotta like it though.

 

I don't like it either.

 

It's a thing, but you are right. Defenders need to be able to drag ball carriers to the ground or they pretty much have nothing left.

 

You have to wonder how much traction is it getting because talking heads, former players and now league reps are calling the defensive player dirty due to the injuries. When like you guys are saying it is at the point where they have made it nearly impossible to tackle a player especially near the sideline. You go to high and the you risk the 15 for hitting them out of bounds. You have basically have to do the dead drop of your weight to try and pull them down and hope you don't land on thier ankles and then get labeled a dirty player. It's going to be a long conversation to find a happy medium.

One thing I noticed in the games this week were running QB'S that were getting hit and hit solidly and whatever former ref they had to throw to for a quick explanation would talk about at what point the QB became a runner and could be handled as such but the minute they go back to attempt to pass the QB rules apply again. How can you possibly expect a defender to know these things? Remember Cam knocking Mahomes to the ground on the sideline and the controversy that caused. If he throws a pump fake in there he is protected but still basically a runner but can't touch him. This are areas where everyone involved should be meeting throughout the off season to gain clarity on how to regulate the game.

 

What a crazy notion, dirty players taking advantage of a dirty tactic.

 

Now you're getting the picture.

 

In a few yrs we may be watching flag football

 

I'd rather they ban the dirty players. I'll never understand how Myles Garrett is still in the league, and praised.
I have less interest in the NFL every season, they're not looking to entertain geezers like me anymore.

 

There are enough dirty players in the NFL that would stoop this low, they all know this technique and will use to their advantage. Yea I will take Lev Bell out no problem. Just my opinion. Logan Wilson did it twice against Ravens.
and he tries to play innocent. LOL If I was a Steeler I would have my head on swivel when he is around.

 

The easiest solution is the league bans the Bengals. Problem solved.

 

They also said it only happens 1 or 2 times per game, so when it’s banned has anything really changed.

 

Why do you think Geno Smith went after the guy a couple weeks ago?
Because he knows it is a dirty football play, and the guy was trying to hurt him.

 

I still don't see how that's dirty.

 

Rhetorical question. What happens when there are a couple of Lisfranc injuries in a season because of shoestring tackles? Too many of these rule changes are overly punitive to defenses. Meantime, chop blocks are rarely called.

 

Or could go up be preventing unnecessary injury to good players.

 

Burfict did it, that's how.

 

Offense sells.

 

That guy was a total scumbag and did that intentionally to hurt him. I think he even admitted as such at some point. He could have just continued to ride him out of bounds. He knew what he was doing. It's like players coming in and trying to make the big hit vs just wrapping up. Even before some of these tackle penalties you had players just trying to hit the guy as hard as they could vs the higher percentage wrap up. Gotta get on "Jacked Up" highlight vs textbook wrap up tackle. The fundamentals need to be taught but then again they are even allowed to practice full contact anymore.

 

You have to be joking, he grabs him by the shoulder and could just drive him out of bounds (yes he gets few more yards) but he knows just like a horse collar that you if pull a guy backwards with your 260lbs of weight suddenly the knees are gonna take the brunt. Furthermore, pin your weight on the back of the legs and you guarantee a knee or ankle injury. Its like saying well the guy got buy me so I should be able to grab is face-mask and yank it backwards. Another example in basketball, everyone knows the unwritten rule, if you grab a guys jersey from behind because he's smoking you down the court you can get punched in the face because that's how you can cause a hammy injury. We were taught that in junior high, don't do it. Every sport has the no-no's and football players know that tackle/takedown is bs!!!

 

Yes they should wrap up, but big hits not only dislodge the ball , but take a little from the offensive players soul...LoL....also it's not an easy thing to just wrap up a guy that because the rules are different for the offense....can dip his head into you....causing you to go helmet to helmet, and We know who will get the flag for that.
Really just seriously look at what a offensive player can do legally on the field, and a D player cannot.
So the D keeps trying to come up with ways to stay ahead, and the league keeps taking them away. I guess it's not enough that the offense knows the play, and where they are going....they must have every other bit of help also.