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NFL bans larger bags at stadiums, but wait....

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Da Stellars, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Yeah such a small stadium was a huge mistake, they probably chose the number on attendance at that time, and not 10 years into the future.

    Most big time stadiums hold almost 100k.....
     
  2. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, except the ones that have with NFL teams.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Football_League_stadiums

    Dallas is the only one that goes up to 100,000, and that's including 25,000 Standing Room Only tickets. And it was built 10 years after Heinz. There are two or three other stadiums in the 80s, and the rest are in the 50s, 60s, or 70s. Average is around 70,000. Heinz is toward the bottom, but most of the middle of the pack is only separated by a couple thousand, and with the expansion, they'll be more in the middle of the pack. And I think there are a lot of things about the stadium that make it better than others, even if it has a couple thousand fewer seats than average.

    They knew how many people they had, even in 2001. They haven't missed a sell-out game in 40 years and have a waiting list generations long. They did what they did for whatever reasons I don't feel like getting into, but it's not that small and they knew what they were doing.
     
  3. Lizard72

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    Yup, they factored in the actual city size into the equation. When you do that it's a small market team that relies on out of area fans to come into the area on a consistant basis to put butts in the seats.

    While the fan base is considerably larger than the city itself, you run into the Jacksonville problem in the lean years if you guess wrong.
     
  4. AFan

    AFan Well-Known Member

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    ThecSteelers made a business decision to keep Heinz Field intentionally small, to make sure there's a waiting list and that those on it wait decades. They kept tickets scarce by design. Once you add enough seats to clear the waiting list and fans realize they can get season tickets year to year without fear, the customer takes control not the business owner. By keeping seats scarce , even in the lean times fans will renew their season tickets for fear of losing them forever. But put in too many seats, that fear disappears, fans don't hoard tickets because they know they can always get them.
     
  5. Bleedsteel

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    Can you still smoke in Heinz field?
    Haven`t been there in a few years, and don`t remember the policy there.
    I don`t think I smoked during the games.
    If I did, it was probably in a "designated smoking area", or, the bathroom.
    Pretty sure I didn`t leave my seat, during the game, tho.
    Mite have found a place at halftime.
    Was still reeling from getting kicked out of the Clown`s Stadium, for smokin in the boys room, and didn`t wanna chance it.
    Shame, considering theirs was built partially from cigarette taxes, and is an open air stadium.
    Not sure if Heinz was founded in part by "sin taxes", or not, but I thought it was :bscow: that I couldn`t smoke in Cleve Stadium, that was built partially on tax money from cigarettes, and they didn`t even have an area where we could indulge our nasty habit!
    In an OPEN AIR stadium! Not like everyone is in a glass box, fumigating everyone around us, with our cancer-causing habit!!!
    On a side note, since I am replying to you, MyronWeMissYinz, and I know yer a race fan...
    Did you know that Michigan International Speedway, is now a "Smoke free facility"?!?:eek:
    Really... It`s fine to inhale burnt rubber, and spent racing fuel, but, somehow we are hurting our fellow fans, by lighting up a smoke, in an outdoor environment, even walking the grounds, not in the seats, in close proximity to another of the 100,000 fans that buy the tickets?
    And they cannot see fit to give us a couple 10 foot by 10 foot "designated smoking areas", like even the Amusement Parks will sprinkle into their 100,000+ square foot layouts, for their theme parks?
    RayD... Maybe I will have to look into those "Vaping" ideas...
    Although I have a feeling I would get hassled for "toking" from something that slightly resembles a "bong"... LOL!!!
    Just don`t really see the "security threat", in a seat cushion!!!!:shrug:
    I GUESS if enough people co-ordinated, to put together the necessary ingredients for a bomb, in several different seat cushions...
    it COULD happen..
    I`m just not that worried about it...
    To each their own.
    Peace:cool:
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    So sad you can't go 3 hours without a cig :lolol:
     
  7. Bleedsteel

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    It`d be easier if they would quit selling known alcoholics like me, those 10 dollar beers... it`s bad for our health...
    Surely they should know that, and "protect us from ourselves"..:eek::lolol:
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Known? Do they have pictures posted throughout the stadium? :rules:
     
  9. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they built it so small, to get more money/value from PSL's?
    Should have been a 70,000 seat stadium. Also getting back to vendor prices,
    this is a shame, all of the prices are out of this world.How can a working class family even afford
    to take their family to a game?GREED.
     
  10. Bleedsteel

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    Well.. Not to brag, but....:innocent::lolol:
     
  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    ahh,yes the PSL's that they said they would never do. that was an expensive year as most are. add the parking pass, tickets and it cost alot of money every year. most have no idea. they want a couple of tickets here and there and complain about the waiting list. yes, throw in the prices for vendors and the preseaon games that cost the same amount for everything.

    they have taken away the family trip to a ballgame scenario out of it. i said a few years ago and still believe that some day it will be all corp. boxes and the average joe will pay a ticket price to watch it on pay for view.

    :cool:
     
  12. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    This is probably the scenerio we are looking @ Mac, I knew you were a season ticket holder, I posted a break down last year of the cost for 2 people going to a game. It was a very conservative breakdown and I think I came up with a figure of 500/ game. How in the heck can a working man afford 10 of these? I believe I had the PSL and parking figured into this figure. Priceless YOY!
     
  13. MeanJoeBlue

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    I'm wondering if part of the thinking was to make there was never a local blackout. If the stadium is always sold out well before the game, it will always be on TV.
     
  14. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I thought blackouts were just threats because TV Networks usually just buy up the remaining seats?
     

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