My thoughts on regular season wk 14

Wilson was not handed the job he was given the pole position to start OTA’s and played better than Fields

Pickett ran like a coward

It’s nice to see you finally admitting he was stuipid when he did this

He could have started the 6 games that Fields did

He could have been in a position to start in the future

Those facts are easy to see if you do your homework and lose your conspiracy fantasies

Go ahead get your last word in and declare you are right it’s predictable we all get a chuckle

 

Great point here, in blue

Pickett is soft, a product of the entitlement generation.

 

I guess you forgot about Huey Richardson. There were others who hung around for a bit, but that is easier to do for a lineman or a safety than a quarterback.

No, Edmunds was not a better player than Pickett. Teams treat quarterbacks differently from safeties. They are more willing to live with a weak link like Edmunds at safety than they are a mediocre quarterback, which is what Pickett was last year. Of course, their situations were completely different. Edmunds was dropped into an outstanding defense. He was surrounded by stars like Watt, Fitzpatrick, and Heyward. He was put in a fantastic position to succeed and sucked anyway.

Pickett was placed behind a shaky offensive line. His best receivers, Johnson and Pickens, were immature and erratic. His offensive coordinator was a joke. His head coach didn't trust any young quarterback, pushing the idea of avoiding turnovers at all cost, an approach that took away Pickett's aggressiveness. Pickett had been aggressive quarterback in college, one who did most of his damage attacking the middle of the field. Most of the time, that disappeared when he was a pro and that was by coaching design. The only time we saw that was when they needed a score late in a game. That's where the whole fourth-quarter Kenny thing came from.

Was a he stupid and impatient in asking for a trade when they signed Wilson? Absolutely, but he had reason to react that way. They let him do the tightrope surgery to try to return from his ankle injury more quickly, then never let him play. Then they handed Wilson the starting job, not even giving Pickett an opportunity to compete for the job. People had this notion that Pickett had to succeed from day one or he was a bust. It was a stupid notion. It was more reasonable to expect a path like what we saw at Pitt, when it took him some time to put things together. The Steelers knew they could get Fields for a song, so instead of telling Pickett to shut up and wait, they moved on.

 

They promised Wilson the job to get him to sign. Did you miss those reports? I did my homework. You chose to ignore anything that didn't fit into the narrative you want to tell. The Steelers initially refused to guarantee him the job, which is why he didn't sign after the first meeting. The Steelers eventually gave Wilson what he wanted. That is why Pickett asked out, because he was pissed that he lost his job to injury and wasn't being given the opportunity to win it back.

I have said all along it was stupid. Young players do stupid things. Smart organizations tell the player to shut up and wait their turn, but the Steelers were enamored with the physical gifts of Fields, so they moved on.

I get it. The Steelers spent a first-round pick on the guy and got very little return, so you are angry with him. Quite a few fans feel that way. That leads some to making an unsupported accusation, the one the Steelers want fans to believe because it distracts from them wasting a first-round pick by handling his development so poorly.

Please don't misrepresent my posts, which fit the available evidence far better than yours. Also, Please stop jumping into discussions just to start an argument only to prop it up with an ad hominem attack. It leads to the sort of unpleasant discourse that is frowned upon here. Thank you.

 

Or he was rightfully angry at the piss-poor way the Steelers handled his time in Pittsburgh every step of the way.

 

Steelers were definitely wrong on Pickett. I think it was a reach by Tomlin wanting to get the right QB so bad to turn things around for TJ and Cam

I don't get this...how exactly was Pickett handled in a piss-poor way? Seems to me he had countless opportunities and blew them all?

 

we are back to the beating of the DEAD HORSE HERE!!!

 

I'm just salty that KFP sucked and then was a baby on the way out. Be better...Justin Fields saw that Russ was better and handled it like a professional. KFP has only himself to blame.

 

we agree - some don't

 

You did make me chuckle

It’s fun to push your insecurity button

 

I explained it, but sure, I'll repeat it. They entrusted his development to Matt Canada, who had no business being an NFL offensive coordinator. They refused to trust him, coaching him to avoid turnovers at all costs. You can't do that with a young quarterback. You have to let them be aggressive even if it leads to some mistakes. If you don't, you can squeeze the aggressiveness out of them, which is what I believe happened to Pickett. He became too risk-averse, and you can't play the position that way. They mostly took the middle of the field away from him, which has been where he did most of his damage in college. He also had to deal with an offensive line he couldn't trust, especially at center. That meant not only did he have that scrub getting shoved back into his lap far too often, he had to deal with the timing on too many plays being disrupted by poor snaps. Letting him get the tightrope procedure in an attempt to rush back, then not letting him play made things worse. So did how they handled his trade request. They could have easily told him to shut up and wait his turn.

They were also inconsistent in what they asked of him as a rookie. They threw him to the wolves in his first NFL start, having him throw the ball over 50 times against the Bills. By way of comparison, Roethlisberger never threw more than 28 times in the regular season as a rookie. He attempted 30 passes in a playoff game. He attempted more than 30 passes once during his second season, 41 in a loss to the Bengals. His first game with over 50 attempts was midway through year three.

 

Thank you for making it clear that you are trolling rather than trying to have a genuine conversation. Of course, it was fairly obvious before this post, but it thoughtful of you to remove all doubt.

 

I didn’t respond to you, you responded to me

If you don’t want me to correct you don’t respond to me

It’s a message board dumb nut people post here so don’t pretend you have any authority

Try to keep you insecurities under control

I suggest you just not respond to me if you want to save face

Bye

 

Different situations. Pickett was told he would get no opportunity to compete after losing his job to injury the previous season. He saw that the organization had little faith in him and asked out. It wasn't a smart decision, but it was reasonable given the Steelers actions. People seem to assume that Pickett threw a fit rather than calmly asking for a trade. There is no evidence either way, but as you admitted, many fans are angry over the way he played even though much of it was doing what the team asked him to do in poor circumstances.

 

Whack

You are so easy to mess with

In the holiday spirit I’ll allow you to get your last word in

Happy Holidays

 

Fair take. Matt Canada definitely didn't help his development. But I watched every single one of his games, and he basically NEVER popped. If he was the man, and I would hope you would be as a 1st round QB, you would make the plays that you see and not be scared about what MC says when you go back to the sideline. He had every opportunity to make plays...I don't buy that he was completely handcuffed.

 

I just don't give him the credit you do regarding circumstances. He should have been able to overcome some of the obstacles in front of him. Kenny was average at best in his first year and was given full reigns in year two only to regress. I can't put that all on MC. And honestly, its even more apparent he wasn't the guy if MT was so willing to move off him so quick (which to this day I still give him big time credit for just owning it was a mistake and moving on).

 

Kenny Pickett had 24 starts with us....This is way more that many of the first round bust that other team had at this position,so the steelers were patient with him....And Tomlin had no choice to handcuff him since when it was not the case,he was a interception machine with so few production with that....Yes Canada was very poor but Pickett had so few flash with us...Justin Fields is much better,on the field and also much better teammates.Fields still has a great attitude despite to be benched

 

You may want to add some punctuation to your third sentence for the sake of clarity. Were you calling me a dumbass or claiming that dumb ass people post here?

Might I kindly suggest that you refrain from posting things with the intent of starting trouble and instead focus on having a genuine conversation? I think that would add to a more respectful environment here. Thanks.

 

There were stories that Tomlin didn't want to start over with a young quarterback. I think that showed in how he handled Pickett, refusing to trust him and instead holding him back except when the Steelers needed a score late. It wasn't all on Canada. It was on Tomlin and the shaky offense around Pickett, as well as Pickett himself.

 

Canada sucked,
Pickett sucked

and Mike Tomlin was the straw that stirred that drink

now.....let that one settle a bit.....

 

Hold on...Tomlin looked excited when they drafted him on draft night. That did not look like a guy that was upset about starting over with a young QB. Calling BS on that one.

 

Maybe so...just happy Tomlin switched to bourbon over mimosas.

 

He could have been excited about Pickett in the long term, but I don't think he wanted him starting the first couple of seasons. Trubisky was so bad that it forced his hand, but I don't think he put his trust in Pickett and that hamstrung the kid.

 

Why yes I am having a nice day

Thank you for asking