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My thoughts on regular season wk 14

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Dec 8, 2024 at 4:26 PM.

  1. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure it was that at all. We have only seen him in parts of two seasons in a bad situation. He had an incompetent offensive coordinator for all but his last game as a starter. He had a head coach who refused to trust him, forcing him to be too conservative. He had a shaky offensive line with a huge problem right in front of him at center. We never got to see anything resembling his upside.
     
  2. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    That's a good point about Pickett having a weakness at center in front of him. Mason Cole was a gawd awful center.
     
  3. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I would agree that the first round status don't mean much but you had a different opinion about the draft status of the ravens wide receiver in the last offseason :shrug:
     
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  4. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Problem with Kenny was always his ceilling was way too low...Not a true franchise QB,like top 10 QB where you have a realistic chance to win the super bowl even if the roster is not perfect around you....It was such a bad decision to draft in the first round
     
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  5. AskQuestionsLater

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    That said, if the likes of Offensive Guard Tyler Booker is available in Round 1 with all WR options exhausted, that would make for an interesting discussion. Booker is pound for pound the best Guard in the class. Granted, not by a large margin but a good margin nevertheless. Adding him with the likes of BroJo, Troy Fau, Zach and Mason McCormick would set that line up quite nicely for the next half decade to decade.


    Then again, as much as I love Booker.... gonna need a CB at some point. Trey Amos from Ole Miss wouldn't be a bad pickup. Tacario Davis from Arizona would be a good Round Three investment if he is there as well. There isn't much proven behind the likes of Jackson and Peezy Jr at the moment.
     
  6. AskQuestionsLater

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    .... PLEASE DONT REMIND ME. :facepalm: :frustrated:


    I had him going in the Top 15. Kansas City got away with high way robbery in 2022; landing him and George Karlaftis!! :eek:
     
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  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    What????.
    I really don't know what You are saying, or talking about here. Not trying to be a smart a$$....I'm being serious
     
  8. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I forget the word agree at the start...I edit it
     
  9. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how often the timing of a play was disrupted because Cole couldn't even consistently snap the ball accurately, not to mention the many times he got shoved back into Pickett's lap.
     
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  10. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Except the ceiling stuff was always nonsense and everybody had him as a first-rounder going into the draft.
     
  11. DJ18Baller

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    It was a very weak QB draft class he had no business being a first rd pick. The Steelers were desperate and they liked the fact he played in the same facility.
     
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  12. Formerscribe

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    This is one argument I have been seeing since he was drafted that makes no sense. The rest of the class is irrelevant to the evaluation of Pickett. It was then and it is now.

    Again, go back and look at the mock drafts that year. Good luck finding any that didn't have him in the first round. There may have been a few, but there were far more that had him in the top 10. He was a legitimate pick who didn't pan it, and a big part of that was the team mishandling him in just about every way possible.

    I would have preferred Linderbaum, but the Steelers were still in their phase of ignoring the center position for reasoning I never understood.
     
  13. DJ18Baller

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    You know mocks are going to have at least 1 QB in rd 1 and he was the best of a historically bad QB class. I will say the Steelers did him 0 favors but as a Pitt fan and watching him for 5 years no fing way he was a first rd guy. He had one great year throwing to a wide open Addison against trash ACC defenses.
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

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    Terrible evaluation by the Steelers. I said it after they drafted him, with all those teams passing on him I hope the Steelers just know him better because he played next door. Turns out those teams just had a better evaluation on him.
     
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  15. Steelersfan43

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    I don't care much about the mock draft and thing like that.Many had Malik Willis in the first round too
     
  16. Formerscribe

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    LOL I do love the twisted logic folks keep using on this. Most of the mocks had multiple quarterbacks going in the first round with Pickett first, so your theory doesn't hold up.
     
  17. Formerscribe

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    That is why his logic doesn't work. Most of the mocks had other quarterbacks in the first round with Pickett first, so that logic does not hold up.
     
  18. Formerscribe

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    Or even properly-rated quarterbacks fail in the NFL, especially when the team completely botches how they handle him the way the Steelers did. That is far more likely.
     
  19. Steelersfan43

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    I mean,what who matter is the other QB were drafted in the 3rd round or later after that.The mock draft don't matter on draft day
     
  20. Steelersfan43

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    I complete forget last week he was with the browns....

     
  21. Blast Furnace

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    We often find out just how useless mocks are on draft day when players that are highly ranked free fall and go much later. Thats because teams are much better at scouting than hobbyists. I saw mocks with Willis going in the first round and at least one in top 10.

    Every QB needy team passed on Pickett except the Steelers. They were right, Steelers were wrong.
     
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  22. Formerscribe

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    It demonstrates that all this hindsight-driven reach talk is nonsense, but some folks never got over the Steelers passing on Willis.
     
  23. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Pickett went right about where most of the mocks had him. Of course, it didn't work out, but that doesn't make it the historic reach you claim it to be. First-round quarterbacks fail at a fairly high rate, even more so if the team botches his development. I know we agree that the Steelers screwed up in the way they handled Pickett.
     
  24. Steelersfan43

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    I did not want Willis too.I wanted that the steelers wait another year to draft a QB,nobody had a high ceilling at that time
     
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  25. Blast Furnace

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    But the other QB’s that had first rd grades all dropped to the third. I dont know if Pickett would have dropped that far, I tend to believe he would have gone in the second but I think it’s clear he was over drafted.

    Yes, Steelers botched his development. Poor job by them and then jerked him around by having him get tight rope surgery just to keep him on the bench.
     
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