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My thoughts on preseason wk 1

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Aug 12, 2023.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Again not as a Steeler. I don't give 2 f**ks what he did elsewhere. As a Steeler Trubisky has worse win /loss %, and td/int % than Mason. The only way people can defend Trubisky is by bringing up what He did elsewhere.....not what he has done here.
     
  2. forgotten1

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    What were their stats last year?
     
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  3. Brice

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    My 2 biggest question for players I was looking forward to seeing in preseason that did not happen are.

    1) Did Allen Robinson play? I thought they would have him play a little more not being as familiar with the offense as everyone else.
    2) Why isn't Gunner returning all the kicks? The only way he makes the team is if he shows that he has returned to his Pro-Bowl level in the Punt/Kick return game.
     
  4. LambertsDentist

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    Not many teams have 3 starter quality QBs. Some teams don't have ANY starter quality QBs. I think if you look league wide, you'd find that Mitch is an average backup while mason is an above average number 3.

    We remember several years ago when we had Ben in his prime with Batch and Leftwich as our 2nd and 3rd QB. That was a rare QB room, but as fans, we're expecting similar quality QB depth every year. That's an unrealistic expectation.
     
  5. PeeblesAlum

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    Rudolph didn't have any stats last year. They let Trubisky do the losing for him. Trubisky had an 81.1 rating. In 2021 Rudolph had a 70.8 in Pittsburgh while trubisky had a 47.4 in Buffalo. But those statistics are situationally meaningless.
     
  6. Steelvision

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    this is a good point. What Trubisky did in Chicago is irrelevant. That was a different system, under a different coaching staff, surrounded by different players.

    Here he’s been overall pretty bad. He’s not shown reliability or consistency even as a backup. Mason, with his awkward running style and hitch in his throw is more consistent. They’re both career backups but one is a little better than the other, specially on the deeper passes.
     
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  7. steelersrule6

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  9. Formerscribe

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    Seriously? Do you only remember old, broken-down Roethlisberger?
     
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  10. Formerscribe

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    You may not care, but anybody interested in an accurate evaluation of those players knows better.
     
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  11. oldschool

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    Im not saying good or even great, but he’s had a handful of snaps and likely played with a mixed bag of players who were are subbed in and out for a rag tag group that could barely be called “a unit”.
     
  12. Brice

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    I guess I need to rethink where was Allen Robinson thing.

    Opening Drive 10 play snap count.
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  13. pczach

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    Remember, this is preseason. Robinson is going to get his targets. Pickens and DJ weren't being double covered. They were mostly going against single man coverage or zone. There will be much more game planning by opponents once the regular season starts, and teams will be looking to take away Pickens or DJ and it will create more opportunities for Allen Robinson, Freiermuth, CA3, Najee Harris, etc..

    I think that the Bucs played the WR's pretty straight up, and Kenny Pickett took advantage of that. It's a great thing that the wide receivers are wearing defenses out. That will help open up everything else if defenses can't deal with Pickens and DJ straight up and they choose to roll coverage one way or double-team one of them.

    It's a long season and I think everyone is going to get theirs. Kenny just needs to read the coverage, keep taking what's there, and not forcing it into coverage.
     
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  14. mac daddyo

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    depends what he saw from the pocket. the view from above looks a lot different than the view from his vantage point. i'm guessing here to why he didn't step up. not a real concern if that was his take on it. as the line gels and the reps continue with them and his coaches they may fix little things. it takes time even if he's looking better, there are still things that are a work in progress for most QB's. the coaches are trying to get a muscle memory thing going to tweek some things. some things you have to break the bad habits from to get to the good habits. sometimes they just let them go because of the results. :cool:
     
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  15. oldschool

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    I’d rather TRADE him for a good back up center if they found a willing dance partner. Maybe save a couple million to have in the bank for another emergency player.

    If they found Kwon Alexander this late, it stands to reason there is more gold in them thar hills.
     
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  16. oldschool

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    I don’t hear or haven’t heard many people take a large issue with the SS position and acquisition after we said goodbye to Terrell Edmunds (who was mediocre at best).

    Neal seems the same level player (not good enough) and Kazee is undersized for that spot, yet *supposedly* willing even though he seems to always have some injury he’s playing through if he is actually dressed. Other guys are a step or two below.

    Basically, I wasn’t ever psyched how they filled this hole and I think it’s going to show in the season. I really wanted the honey badger dude.

    Top 3 pick next draft. Along with C, DT and maybe ILB to round out the top 4. Trade Tribisky for a high 3rd pick - please gods!!!
     
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  17. oldschool

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    I want to hear every player say something similar and especially with this level of SINCERITY!

    I truly think it matters. I think players try harder and buy in when they truly have a love for a certain team.

    I’m hoping the front office and GM room try to mine these guys and make that a thing like they are with the “brothers thing”.
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    This. At least someone gets it. What He did outside of the Steelers means nothing to Me. What He has done as a Steeler is pathetic.
     
  19. S.T.D

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  20. mac daddyo

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    hopefully they saw what green did in this game and they work on it this week with mccollum and herbig and maybe anderson. we have guys here familiar with this coach and system. this is why they play these games. they will look at film and work on things. mccollum can still be kept on the PS so he probably will revert back to there for the season as the emergency 3rd center. he didn't play that bad.

    as far as safety someone was talking about, riley is safety capable and so is robinson. robinson didn't look too bad either. :cool:
     
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  21. mac daddyo

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    i don't put a lot of stock in this first game. remember green stunk. he should have been better since he's been here and started before. the others in front of mitch and mason and morgan are fairly new to the system. remember how long it took our starters last year to get it. a lot of these linemen are also rookies. most of the others came from different systems, so give it time. no knee jerk reactions needed quite yet. :cool:
     
  22. GoldBurgh

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    I personally don't expect much. I just have observed that they both suck.
     
  23. steelersrule6

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    No team is trading for Trubisky, especially not for a 3rd pick :rolleyes:.
     
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  24. blackandgoldpatrol

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    Hate to rain on anybody parade, but we had better enjoy Herbig for his rookie contract, because if he plays like this during the regular season as a part timer, then you know someone will pay him big time to do it on a full time basis....
    The business aspect of the game really sucks
     
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  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    They could control him for five years if they wanted to (tag), some fans are overreacting to Herbig's first game, let's remember he was facing second and third stringers.
     
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