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My thoughts on preseason wk 1

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Aug 12, 2023.

  1. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not one of 'em.
     
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  2. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Well, I LOVE to see Ravens, Bengals, Browns and Patriots fail. Guilty on that front.
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. Same.
     
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  4. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    It's going to be weird not rooting against Tom Brady this year. I'm just glad that the last time he left Pittsburgh it was as a loser.
     
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  5. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Once Brady left the patriots are just another team.
     
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  6. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Mayfield is a pretty good comparable for caliber of player. Some success as a starter, but really got by on a single very good year. Was ok otherwise but not good enough to be a solidified starter anywhere.

    side note, Howell looks pretty solid. I liked him a lot coming out of school and actually had him up there with Pickett as the top QB’s in that class. I think he could be a decent player.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    If it’s so easy then why are those plays so successful? Ben was lethal at it.

    Admit it, you’d just rather stick toothpicks in your eyes then see a QB running.
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Ben ran those at the most twice a game. Everything can be successful if it's not used often. Ask Yourself this. The High school, and college ranks have been running this for as long as I can remember. Why did the NFL only run it very very infrequently??? Because covering the whole field is way harder than only half. Everything has its uses, but using something, and relying on something is two different things.
     
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  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Still Belichick beat us last year. That We must end.
     
  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Then Why did We beat Brady last year, and lose to the Patriots????:shrug:
     
  11. Formerscribe

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    What you have to remember is that this isn't all that different from how Roethlisberger was used early in his career. They rolled him out quite a bit and he escaped on his own. Hopefully, he will step up or move around in the pocket more as he gains experience and gets more comfortable in the offense.
     
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  12. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Also why Ben...even as big as He was got broken down. I wish He had learned quicker....., but I do hear You.
     
  13. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    They still did what they almost always do against the Patriots, find a stupid way to lose. In this case, it was two plays that pretty much handed them touchdowns. Without those gifts, the Patriots don't find the end zone at all and the Steelers probably win despite the team's early-season struggles on offense.
     
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  14. Formerscribe

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    He did learn fairly early to hang in the pocket more, but he took forever to learn to stop holding the ball too long. That's how he took such a beating. The rollouts helped keep things simple for him. I imagine Pickett will adjust faster than the big knucklehead.
     
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  15. forgotten1

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    Let's ask @Brice@Brice
     
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  16. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    It was Gunner, yet another Patriot plant like Omar and Blunt
    I'm telling you. They have infiltrated our org since 1996
     
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  17. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    That's our MO against the Patriots.
     
  18. Brice

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    What?? Beat Brady and lose to the Patriots. Not a clue what you guys are talking about.
     
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  19. Steelvision

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    Yeah, i'm manipulating alright, lol. Rudolph has been better stat wise overall than MT in Pittsburgh. That's a fact. He outshined MT in the first preseason game, another fact. That MT you keep harping about is long gone, might have just been a mirage. They're keeping him around cause they like his mobility, but another poor performance or two, and he's on the chopping block.
     
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  20. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Yes, using all of Rudolph's career and only one season of Trubisky's is manipulating the numbers to suit your argument. It is inaccurate and misleading, whether you intend it to be so or not.

    They are keeping Trubisky around because the alternative is Rudolph, who nobody wanted.
     
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  21. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Wtf...You can't be serious with this comment.Brady won a super bowl in 2020 with Tampa Bay and the pats have 2 losing season in 3 season since Brady left.The steelers are not the only team in the NFL
     
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  22. Steelvision

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    they were keeping Trubisky around because of his mobility that’s a fact too. Mobile qbs are the trend in the league now. Look at the division - all mobile QBs. In spite of that Rudolph may be pushing trubs out of the 2 spot.

    my argument isn’t misleading at all, it just reveals that your guy hasn’t been good at all in Pittsburgh. He lost his job after five starts. He could lose his backup spot if he doesn’t show something.
     
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  23. mikeyg

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    when Watt is not on the field, we lost most of the time, sorry to say.....
     
  24. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Poor play by Trubisky and busted coverage on 1 play... while the secondary performed well otherwise.

    Losing to the Patriots and Jets kept the Steelers out of the playoffs.
     
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  25. thorn058

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    Has anyone ever tried to extrapolate Rudolph's stats to match Trubisky's just to see how they look in total comparison? The problem I have with this discussion going back to last season is that Steeler sample size for Rudolph is greater than Mitch's but when you total in all of Trubisky's career stats including those as a starter in Chicago they tilt the starting point heavily in his favor. So to there is no way to compare the two that doesn't place Mason behind the eight-ball due to his backup status on a team with an entrenched Veteran QB.
     
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