My thoughts on preseason wk 1

Those statistics are worthless and misleading because they leave out most of Trubisky's resume. I am more interested in an accurate representation of both players. You are more interested in complaining about hate that doesn't exist and misrepresenting things to try to prop up Rudolph.

Both of them make poor decisions. Neither is consistent. Keenum is on another roster. I'm not sure how he is relevant to this discussion.

Why is it relevant that most other teams wouldn't consider Trubisky for a starting job, but you want to ignore that no team in the NFL even wanted Rudolph as a backup?

Yes, Trubisky threw three killer interceptions against the Ravens. I don't want either of those guys having to carry the offense, which is what the quarterbacks had to do that day because the running game was nonexistent. Trubisky was bad as the starter for an offense that couldn't run the ball and couldn't pass protect. That is what the Steelers were most of the first half of last season. He also came off the bench to rally the Steelers against the Bucs and he played well in the victory over the Panthers. I certainly don't want him or Rudolph playing any significant snaps this season, but anybody who looks at all of the facts instead of picking and choosing which ones they want to consider can see that he has the better resume of the backups.

 

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WEEK 2· Sat 08/19· 6:30 PM EDT

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Let's hope whoever is left standing still ends up holding the clipboard all season. Harrison had other issues, such as his attitude and history of anger management problems. He also didn't have much of a resume at that point. Rudolph came into the league as a third-round pick in a league that is desperate for anybody who can play quarterback. Even with that making it a poor comparison, there are always exceptions and Harrison clearly is one. That doesn't mean the rest of the league is always wrong about these things.

 

I don't see Trask beating out Mayfield. I'd rank Brissett slightly better than Trubisky. Dalton has had a better career than Trubisky, but they are pretty much even at present.

 

This is why you don't judge quarterbacks by the team's record, at least no entirely. Yes, Johnson's fumble probably cost them a victory. Don't get me started again on Freiermuth's fumble. That throw was a horrible decision by Rudolph, one that put his receiver in an impossible position for what would have been a gain of a yard or two with no real shot to get out of bounds if he had held on to it.

The number of throws was inflated by the game going to a full overtime. Despite all those opportunities and a 100-yard rushing game by Harris, the offense only managed 16 points against a horrid opponent. Rudolph missed multiple open receivers, including one in the end zone on a drive that ended in a field goal attempt.

It's funny how you want to make excuses for him, the weather, but ignore the team situation Trubisky faced early last season when the offensive line struggled to block for the pass or the run and Harris was nowhere close to 100 percent, so they had no running game.

 

I'm not a big Trubisky fan, but he got the Bears to the playoffs a few times, I don't think any of the QBs you listed have done that.

 

Only Mariota once in 2017.

 

Trubisky is better than most QB2s. He's somewhere in the top 10-15.

 

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Yeah it was such a small sample. Now if after 3 games Mitch still has a 0.0 rating and Rudolph is throwing bombs to Calvin Austin for TD's, then maybe the Steelers will take a look at the depth chart. This week could easily see Trubisky play competently and Rudolph look like a disaster.

 

I don’t get why Mason garnered NO interest from the rest of the league. Have you seen some of the QB play from backups around the NFL? Mason is no starter, but he’s dang sure got the talent to be a capable backup. I’m starting to believe that Garret’s pathetic race baiting may have accomplished what that scumbag hoped it would. Still hoping he severs both ACLs in the preseason!

 

WTF are you talking about? I’ll bet those statistics are worthless to you and your inability to process.

 

Those statistics are worthless to anybody looking for accuracy. You are comparing Rudolph's entire career, mostly eight starts in 2019, to only one season of Trubisky's career. At best, they are inaccurate and misleading, thus making them worthless. At worst, they are intentionally misleading.

If you can't follow that, you have no business questioning anybody else's ability to process.

 

I'm arguing He's running into more harm then not. You know when You step up you can step right , or left. You don't stop a person trying to punch ofr kick You by running away. LOL. It only take a few inches of movement. Same with a Qb....You don't have to run 7 yards to get by a pass rusher thats going by. On the one in this preseason game ....it wasn't so much His breaking the pocket....it was He stepped up, and could have settled down, but then continued, and broke the pocket right into the rush. The defense doesn't care what side You escape to. They just know that as soon as You feel pressure...You will try to escape, and therefore cut off half of Your route tree, and half of what they have to cover. Hell we talked about this all the way back in Highschool on defense. It only takes a moment to know which side He has escaped to. It's why I hate role out plays. You actually make it easier on who , and how the defense has to cover. Unless it's a rare arm, and even then they will have to throw across their bodies, and the field which limits their sight on defenders. No. I totally get having to scramble, but not when You don't have to.

 

that's your problem your not looking for accuracy, your just desperate to win an argument. I've gone over my reasoning already. I'm not going to go over it again with you. Get lost.

 

We shall agree to disagree.

 

Do You agree that when You break the pocket to either side ....You cut Your weapons, routes, and field in half???

 

wrong again. Accuracy is exactly what I'm looking for. That is where this all started.

Yes, you made your excuse for manipulating the statistics in the way you want. I just know enough to realize it is nonsense. Only a fool or someone trying to prop up a poor argument would willfully ignore a huge part of the available evidence when evaluating a player.

 

I agree with that yes. What I disagree with is your assessment that he always has the option to simply step up. You're going by what you see, I'm going by what I see. Simple as that. No need to discuss any further.

 

Some of You act like I'm not behind KFP 100%, and I'm trying to cut Him down. It's not even close. I Love the young man, and pray He is very very very successful. That's why I worry. All I'm saying is You'd be surprised How many D players being honest...Love when You break the pocket. It's way easier for a Defense to cover only one side of the field. There is a reason these types of plays were use predominately in college ball, and below, and only sprinkled into the NFL game. Because it's harder to defend the whole field than just one side, but because of the Qbs coming out now they have to implement it now , or watch these Qbs fail.
Also the one play I'm talking about in preseason is He stepped up, and never stopped, and then floated to his right, or ran straight into more pressure. This is the same as a Wr against zone that runs right into more coverage instead of setting down between zone. I just want to see Him be Great....not good ....Great.

 

Never once did I say alway. I said one play. One play. LoL. You heard always. I just want the Young man to be awesome.

 

Don't we all.

 

Not sure. There are always people that love to see others fail.