Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelers2018, Mar 5, 2018.
Don’t let the door hit ya
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Mitchell sucks . This is ridiculous. I'm about done with this Tomlin favorite crap .
In all seriousness, this "teacher's pet" mentality has got to go. The ONLY thing that should matter in the NFL is whether or not a player will be able to help you ON THE FIELD OF PLAY! They could be the greatest guy in the world, but if they hurt the team on the field then you have to make objective decisions to improve the quality of the product you put on the field. It's that simple. You can't play favorites in this league just because you like someone or you pall around with them or whatever. I'm starting to see a little too much of this out of Tomlin and it's not good.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Here's my thing. Mitchell is a below average saftey. Ill even agree that he's a bottom 5 starting saftey as you said. But he is a lot better than Golden and Wilcox. If the Steelers are going to upgrade the position, they are going to have to spend money. After they franchise Bell we may not have the money to spend, and if they spend it in FA it will be on an ILB IMHO. So that leaves enough money to sign another bottom tier saftey who may not even be as good as Mitchell. Like it or not, Mitchell is coming back. I can see them drafting a player early. But even if they do that, they still need Mitchell to fill the gap until the kid they draft is ready to play.
Salary cap has increased by 10 million.....buh bye Mitchell....go sign a safety.
We all will watch a repeat performance if he is retained. But times what ever number you can come up with. I just can't fathom after watching tape, isolating, that the coaching staff actually could come to the conclusion to keep him. He was the worst player on this defense! I saw it! How these professionals actually can't see it and justify his play? Sickening. I'm sorry I would take a chance on Wilcox and drafting someone. Mitchell is absolutely horrible. Just watch. But we all have seen this already.
Man I hope he stays.
Dude calm down, let it play out they aren't keeping Mitchell with a cap hit of 8 million.
Man, I hope you're right. If not, I'm going to need to get my doctor to double my BP meds!
Fixed it for you.
Don't let the heartbreak hurt ya
sorry mike, its been real, its been fun but it hasn't been real fun.
Kevin Colbert made it clear that they need to get better and that will require changes in personnel.
Offense is pretty well set.
Filter your way around the defense, and it doesn’t take long for Mitchell to be in the crosshairs.
Heartbreak of what? You’re the one already crying? Strap on your helmet go play Safety if you’re better
I'm ok with it if Mitchell takes Vet minimum to stay and be a back-up. I think he would be a good insurance policy if he comes cheap.
Out of interest, Jack, where do you think you see a teacher's pet mentality? (This is not me defending Tomlin, I'm genuinely interested)
Like I said in my earlier post, I'm not clear on what this 'Tomlin's favourite' is being based on, as we're so short on Safety talent. It's a similar case with William Gay - there's a case for saying we've held on to him for too long, but there's a fairly objective case for him staying (position flexibility, able to run the defense). At least for last season; I'm not sure we'll see him around next year.
There may well be plenty of evidence for it that we don't see from outside the organisation, like he allows Mitchell to push in the line at lunch time or something, or always picks him to answer a question even when Sean Davis has his hand up first. But if it's just the case that Mitchell is a starter when he's not that good, the issue could well be the limited options to replace him as much as whether Tomlin likes him or not.
I saw him kiss JUJU on the sideline, does that count?
Funny when C S Mitchell was niked up in the beginning of last season I recall JJ Wilcox coming in and he played pretty well with limited time to prepair with the system. I didn't single him out with distain as I did game in and out with Mitchell. 5 mill cap savings if he is cut. That Alone is a great reason. Draft a safety high and have Haden call the defensive backfield signals. Their is also talk of Wilcox staying around in which I would be on board with.
I was one of the supporters of Mitchell on this board but after last years fiasco I am starting to wonder if its time to move on. I really dont see why they would want to keep em to be quite honest
Difficult to make a call on Wilcox with such limited playing time. The only game he played much in was against the Bears I think? And he got an INT.
On his previous body of work, Wikipedia notes:
"During the 2015, Wilcox began developing an identity for delivering hard hits, but also missing tackles. Pro Football Focus ranked him 47th of 63 safeties in tackle efficiency. He also missed 2.6% of his tackles while in deep coverage and was ranked the 79th best overall safety, out of 89 who qualified, for the season."
If I was going to draft a safety or two I might be tempted to stick with the likes of Malik Golden and Dangerfield as back ups, given the salary difference.
Still, interesting that in February there were reports of Wilcox getting cut, and now reports are he maybe staying, but only if he takes a pay cut.