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Mike Wallace last day to report

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    He has until November 13 to report to play this year to become a free agent in 2013, if he doesn't he will be RFA again in 2013. From some of the Steelers beat writers after signing Brown the team will probably not get a longterm deal with Wallace done. If Wallace reports in time the Steelers can franchise him in 2013 unlikely though. I say trade him and get help in the secondary.
     
  2. edog55

    edog55 Well-Known Member

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    I just said pretty much the same thing in another post! I agree.
     
  3. oldschool

    oldschool Well-Known Member

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    Yup! Use this pick to combine with another for a top notch future safety....

    Too bad how this all shook out.

    I knew when he created that "young money crew" moniker it was bad news....
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    In all fairness, isn't that moniker supposed to mean they are money on the field to catch the ball?
     
  5. diehardsteel

    diehardsteel Well-Known Member

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    I always understood it to mean their future mega $$$ contracts ... but I could be wrong.
     
  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i think it means we will have a new face in that picture, next to brown and sanders. :shrug: :cool:
     
  7. steelerzfannforever

    steelerzfannforever Well-Known Member

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    If he is traded, Mike Wallace only has himself to thank! Get in camp!!
     
  8. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I dont understand all of this contract stuff so let me ask for help. If wallace shows up he has got to sign his 2.7 million tender and then he is under contract. If he signs it the steelers dont have to give him a deal right? i know that would be bad business, but maybe wallace is concerned about this. if we dont have the room to sign him, and that just depends on who you believe, I dont know that I blame him for not playing for that amount. I know that $2.7 million is alot but if he gets hurt his chances for a big pay day go down considerbly. I dont understand all of this I admit. I know the steelers do business their way and I love it. I dont think they would screw him if he showed up and signed his tender. I think they would try to get a deal done. there is an article posted on another post from steelerdepot that is a pretty good read. I hope their figures are correct because it seems to me that a deal could be possible. Can anyone help me understand this more cause I hate thinking wallace is this selfish
     
  9. oldschool

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    That's how I understood it too DHS. I mean, I also understand the double meaning Era, but I thought they were looking at a pay day. Wallace had one very successful year ahead of him and that name didn't come to play until Santonio was sent packing and everyone knew Hines was on fumes. They saw dollar signs in their future and this whole narrative explains it.

    If I cared enough (which I don't) to look through past posts, I could prove that I mentioned this many times. Especially when the name was created and when contract stuff started to get serious.

    I love what the organization did in response with Brown. Very smart move and a message was clearly sent for years to come. Act like a gentleman in these business matters and together the front office and the player will benefit. Going at it any other way will get you on the Jets squad.

    Fanica, Holmes, Plaxico.

    Or the cardinals, maybe an even worse fate.
     
  10. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    That's correct, he needs to sign his tender before he can participate in camp. Once he signs the tender, he is under contract.
    Right, we don't have to do anything with him after he signs the tender offer. That's not really a likely scenario, though.
    There's room. It's really a matter of how much he'll accept. Nobody truly knows what the exact offers or negotiations are outside of MW, Bus Cook, and the Steelers FO.
    That's quite true.
    I don't know...sounds like you've got a good handle on it. :thumbsup:
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah I don't know which meaning it is supposed to imply but learning a few things about Brown since I first heard that term being applied to them just doesn't seem to fit his peronality. I don't know :shrug: I can definitely see it being applied to Wallace though.
     
  12. oldschool

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    Yeah I don't know which meaning it is supposed to imply but learning a few things about Brown since I first heard that term being applied to them just doesn't seem to fit his peronality. I don't know :shrug: I can definitely see it being applied to Wallace though.[/quote:2lia37wt]

    I have zero evidence to base this on, but I always assumed it was Wallace and then Sanders flying that flag more than Brown. At the time the name came out, it was Wallace as the new #1 WR and everyone was anointing Sanders as the close 2nd and saying he was (possibly) the most polished, well rounded and complete receiver of the bunch (they still do and maybe correct, we'll see). Even with Brown's first NFL touch being a TD return and Tomlin's 2 dogs 1 bone thing I always felt that early on he was in 3rd place. Antonio's great attitude and solid play before, during and after Sanders playing time loss (because of injuries and his family death) really opened the door for Brown to showcase himself in a humble manner in the spotlight. So yes, I agree he was in there because he was young and good.

    I actually thought the name was cool and creative i just hoped it was motivation for these guys and not going to literally become a foreshadowing of things to come in a negative way. But it did....
     
  13. Coastal Steeler

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    This is just my thought TT and the guy you answered but,
    I think if Wallace waits till the regular season to sign, and misses one regular season game, he will get the salery he was due before the 2.7 mill offered. I think that is all the Rooney's will pay at that time. We all know now He is pissed off and the Rooney's are too. Mike's gone? Agree?
     
  14. Coastal Steeler

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    Hinse

    I thought Hinse came up with Young Money? And it was money as catching the ball.
     
  15. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    He was a UFA and wasn't do anything before the first round tender offer. Wallace has two options sign the tender and play for 2.7 million or sign the tender and work out a long term deal. He's not going to be traded and holding out until November all but guarantees he won't get the big payday next year either.
     
  16. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Guys, I'm a little confused on this. If Wallace shows up, what are the Steelers obligated to pay him. And in the event he holds out and doesnt show up at all, they pay him zilch, right?

    Wallace's actions arent those of someone who gives a crap about his team or teammates.
     
  17. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    If he shows up and signs his tender offer, the Steelers are obligated to pay him $2.742 million, since we didn't reduce the tender offer. He gets nothing until he shows up and signs.
     
  18. Coastal Steeler

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    .[/quote]

    If he shows up and signs his tender offer, the Steelers are obligated to pay him $2.742 million, since we didn't reduce the tender offer. He gets nothing until he shows up and signs.[/quote]

    TT I heard earlier like a few months ago that the Steelers could take back the 2.7 mill but they decided not to. My question is if he misses a regular season game can the Steelers say, ok you have no plans to play here so play out your contract and hit the road?
    Or I could be wrong which has happened once or twice in my life. Ha-ha
     
  19. strummerfan

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    If he shows up and signs his tender offer, the Steelers are obligated to pay him $2.742 million, since we didn't reduce the tender offer. He gets nothing until he shows up and signs.[/quote]

    TT I heard earlier like a few months ago that the Steelers could take back the 2.7 mill but they decided not to. My question is if he misses a regular season game can the Steelers say, ok you have no plans to play here so play out your contract and hit the road?
    Or I could be wrong which has happened once or twice in my life. Ha-ha[/quote]

    He's not under contract.
     
  20. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    If I'm understanding your question correctly, you're asking if after he signs his tender, are we able to let him go after the 2012 season? To that the answer is, yes. Assuming he's active for more than six or more games this season, he'll be an unrestricted free agent next year. Sorry if I misunderstood.
     
  21. Yogi4

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    If he shows up in November do the Steelers have to pay him the whole 2.7 mil or is that pro-rated thru 16 games. He would only get a portion of that amount for 6 games?? :?
     
  22. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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    Pro-rated
     
  23. Coastal Steeler

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    No TT. I heard way back if Wallace doesn't sign his 2.7 Mil the Steelers are only required to honor his last year contract however, the Steelers usually do not reduce the tender if it isn't signed by a drop dead date. I was thinking if Wallace held out for a few games and made KC mad, KC would revert him to the old contrace because the hold out would mean he isn't coming back in 2013. In that case why give a guy 2.7 mil when he has to play for 500,000 and has no desire to play for us. IF that is what's happening.
     
  24. mdbates2

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    Does anyone even really see him PLAYING for only 6 games? I don't see them showcasing him for games 11-16 - unless there is an injury.
     
  25. Coastal Steeler

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    My thought is if MW decided he wants to play elsewhere in 2013. I do believe the Steelers can take back the tender and pay him what he has coming this year on his contract. I like Mike but if I had the purse strings and really thought it was unfolding that way, he'd play for 500,000 this year
     

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