Mike Wallace in Pittburgh

Most NFL receivers would love to be in his "predicament". He was offered (according to sources) $50,000,000 over 5 years. Many would think $10 million per year is fair compensation for a player not universally considered to be in the highest echelon of his position, and it shouldn't be considered a "sacrifice" on his part. Oh by the way, he would be a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers and have 5 excellent chances at collecting 1 or more Super Bowl rings, which are pretty nice fringe benefits to go along with the $50 million.

 

I wish MY boss would offer ME $10 million for doing something I love to do!

 

I'll take that as a "no." Lmao!

 

We can all make $10 million doing something we love to do. It's possible, provided we are willing to take our dedication to our passion to the level NFL players have toward football.

 

Steeler's Website:
Reports are that wide receiver Mike Wallace will be back with the team following this Saturday’s game against the Buffalo Bills, something his teammates have been hearing as well.

 

Ummmm I'm a public school teacher with MORE dedication and passion in my pinkie toe than Mike Wallace has in his whole being. I'll NEVER make $10 million doing my job - though I love every minute of what I do.

 

So am I, but the reality is 57,000 people aren't paying a heck of a lot of money to fill a stadium to come see us. What Mike Wallace eventually makes will be relative to other WR's and not relative to teachers.

 

This seems like a not so well thought out statement. I know NFL players work and train hard, and it's ignorant to assume that they are just born with talent and ride it out without working (although that's the case sometimes), but what you just said pretty much insulted everyone that doesn't have $10 million. Most jobs will not make you a dime more than they're supposed to pay, no matter how passionate you are. Yeah, a public teacher could invent a new kind of pencil that makes him $10 million, but he made that as an inventor, not a teacher.

Maybe you misspoke, but I hope you realize how ignorant and insulting that was. At my previous job, I know I worked harder than many NFL players. It didn't help me crack $25K though. Furthermore, I know I'm more passionate about football than many NFL players! And that's not even my job! Hell, it costs me money.

 

Dang rush, you took the teach to school LOL. Just messin with you guys

 

Watch Omar Kahn work his magic, OR NOT?

 

I know educators who have opened schools and become wealthy by creating an environment that helps children learn, graduate high school and go on to college.

While I appreciate that you may disagree, I did not misspeak. Let's just agree to disagree.

 

I know educators who have opened schools and become wealthy by creating an environment that helps children learn, graduate high school and go on to college.

While I appreciate that you may disagree, I did not misspeak. Let's just agree to disagree.[/quote:1aw1hv9e]

1. It would have to be a HECKUVA big school or charge a fortune in tuition for the "founder" to get rich on it. I notice you don't give an example of an administrator who has EVER made $10 million per year running a school. It's just a plain lie and...

2. EVEN if there's ONE who has done it, it doesn't mean that ANYONE with passion and dedication can do it, which is what you said in your first post.

Of course this is all hypothetical, because those of us who are teachers are not in it for the money, and we get rich in a far more important way than Mike Wallace or those like him will ever dream of.

 

I know educators who have opened schools and become wealthy by creating an environment that helps children learn, graduate high school and go on to college.

While I appreciate that you may disagree, I did not misspeak. Let's just agree to disagree.[/quote:wczp1a42]
1. Football players do not make 1,000 times more money than other people because they are more passionate and work harder. They make all that money because people will pay to watch them play and the money is there to be had. They were born with something that makes them good enough to do a job that pays.

2. Not everyone with less than $10 million is less dedicated to their jobs than football players. Not even close.

If you really disagree with that, then okay, agree to disagree.

 

Just watched the nfl network, the word is nobody knows where this clown is, he hasn't spoken to any of the coaches about coming to Pittsburgh.

 

Hang on, I thought rukus4ever was being ironic in his initial statement. But now I'm not so sure...

 

I know educators who have opened schools and become wealthy by creating an environment that helps children learn, graduate high school and go on to college.

While I appreciate that you may disagree, I did not misspeak. Let's just agree to disagree.[/quote:3igkzyjp]

1. It would have to be a HECKUVA big school or charge a fortune in tuition for the "founder" to get rich on it. I notice you don't give an example of an administrator who has EVER made $10 million per year running a school. It's just a plain lie and...

2. EVEN if there's ONE who has done it, it doesn't mean that ANYONE with passion and dedication can do it, which is what you said in your first post.

Of course this is all hypothetical, because those of us who are teachers are not in it for the money, and we get rich in a far more important way than Mike Wallace or those like him will ever dream of.[/quote:3igkzyjp]

To your point #1:
There are several charter schools on Ohio that have done that. I've worked for some of them. They raise a lot of money from investors, grants (I believe) and public support. Also, the "$10 million" was used because that's what the poster I replied to said. Not every NFL player makes $10 million per year. "$10 million" is a placeholder for making wealth at the upper-echelon of your field. I believe that's what NFL players are, in terms of football, as a whole. They make more money than footbool players in other leagues.

To be honest, I don't know the exact figures of every one of those charter schools. However, there were a few reported in the news as having their founders/CEOs run off with millions of dollars (illegally, of course). Those specific situations were troubling, and are outside the scope of this conversation. However, it underscores that there are people making wealth in education. It was disturbing to see dishonest people undermine those initiatives. But I'm sure we all know there are malicious people in every field of endeavor looking to take advantage of others. (Okay, I'm getting off topic... Just hated to see that happen, in my community.)

To your point #2:
Anyone CAN do it. But not everyone WILL do it. And the exact levels of success will be varied. There are those in the NFL getting contracts like Big Ben. And there are those making league minimum. I don't think many semi-pro football players would scoff at both the opportunity and the pay offered by league minimum. Some people will sacrifice to get higher degrees/certifications to make more money, in their field. Some won't. Some will start their own projects/companies. Some won't. I'll take it further... Some will do these things. MOST won't. And after one or two failures, most of the rest will give up.

Regarding your closing statement:
Yes, it's all hypothetical. This is just a discussion board. And I think it's great that you reap the metaphysical rewards that you do. That is a very important part of anything that any of us do... To gain a sense of satisfaction from what we do that goes beyond financial compensation. I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that 57,000 people won't pay teachers, but will pay sports organizations. That's both true, and sad. As a society, we value seats at a stadium to the tune of hundreds of dollars for some seats, but scoff at taxes going up $20/person (or even less!) to fund schools (which includes funding the educators that teach our children). But that's another topic, for another time. (Watercooler, maybe?)

Finally:
My main point is not based in "$10 million." I was trying to make a point based on the trail of conversation, previous to saying that. I believe we all have the opportunity to earn in the upper echelon within our fields, if we so desire. Mike Wallace desires that, and I'm considering that his current behavior stems from him seeking a method to achieve that (relative to his level and other high-performing NFL receivers).

 

Nope - apparently he really believes that you can get rich by running or teaching in a school - AND he thinks that we're really going to believe that he knows school administrators who make $10 million a year.

 

I know educators who have opened schools and become wealthy by creating an environment that helps children learn, graduate high school and go on to college.

While I appreciate that you may disagree, I did not misspeak. Let's just agree to disagree.[/quote:rskppjap]

1. It would have to be a HECKUVA big school or charge a fortune in tuition for the "founder" to get rich on it. I notice you don't give an example of an administrator who has EVER made $10 million per year running a school. It's just a plain lie and...

2. EVEN if there's ONE who has done it, it doesn't mean that ANYONE with passion and dedication can do it, which is what you said in your first post.

Of course this is all hypothetical, because those of us who are teachers are not in it for the money, and we get rich in a far more important way than Mike Wallace or those like him will ever dream of.[/quote:rskppjap]

To your point #1:
There are several charter schools on Ohio that have done that. I've worked for some of them. They raise a lot of money from investors, grants (I believe) and public support. Also, the "$10 million" was used because that's what the poster I replied to said. Not every NFL player makes $10 million per year. "$10 million" is a placeholder for making wealth at the upper-echelon of your field. I believe that's what NFL players are, in terms of football, as a whole. They make more money than footbool players in other leagues.

To be honest, I don't know the exact figures of every one of those charter schools. However, there were a few reported in the news as having their founders/CEOs run off with millions of dollars (illegally, of course). Those specific situations were troubling, and are outside the scope of this conversation. However, it underscores that there are people making wealth in education. It was disturbing to see dishonest people undermine those initiatives. But I'm sure we all know there are malicious people in every field of endeavor looking to take advantage of others. (Okay, I'm getting off topic... Just hated to see that happen, in my community.)

To your point #2:
Anyone CAN do it. But not everyone WILL do it. And the exact levels of success will be varied. There are those in the NFL getting contracts like Big Ben. And there are those making league minimum. I don't think many semi-pro football players would scoff at both the opportunity and the pay offered by league minimum. Some people will sacrifice to get higher degrees/certifications to make more money, in their field. Some won't. Some will start their own projects/companies. Some won't. I'll take it further... Some will do these things. MOST won't. And after one or two failures, most of the rest will give up.

Regarding your closing statement:
Yes, it's all hypothetical. This is just a discussion board. And I think it's great that you reap the metaphysical rewards that you do. That is a very important part of anything that any of us do... To gain a sense of satisfaction from what we do that goes beyond financial compensation. I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that 57,000 people won't pay teachers, but will pay sports organizations. That's both true, and sad. As a society, we value seats at a stadium to the tune of hundreds of dollars for some seats, but scoff at taxes going up $20/person (or even less!) to fund schools (which includes funding the educators that teach our children). But that's another topic, for another time. (Watercooler, maybe?)

Finally:
My main point is not based in "$10 million." I was trying to make a point based on the trail of conversation, previous to saying that. I believe we all have the opportunity to earn in the upper echelon within our fields, if we so desire. Mike Wallace desires that, and I'm considering that his current behavior stems from him seeking a method to achieve that (relative to his level and other high-performing NFL receivers).[/quote:rskppjap]

I said in my orginal post that I wish my boss would offer me $10 million for doing something I loved. You clearly responded that anyone with dedication can do that.

Regarding Ohio Charter Schools - they didn't make that money because they were dedicated to education. They made that money because they were good fundraisers - period. Most of those for-profit charter schools are run by corporations who are truly in it for the money. It's the teachers who make the school educationally successful - not the founder.

 

Man, this conversation is about as far away from the original subject titled "Mike Wallace in Pittsburgh", as I've seen on this board.

 

I know educators who have opened schools and become wealthy by creating an environment that helps children learn, graduate high school and go on to college.

While I appreciate that you may disagree, I did not misspeak. Let's just agree to disagree.[/quote:3g8h83ox]

1. It would have to be a HECKUVA big school or charge a fortune in tuition for the "founder" to get rich on it. I notice you don't give an example of an administrator who has EVER made $10 million per year running a school. It's just a plain lie and...

2. EVEN if there's ONE who has done it, it doesn't mean that ANYONE with passion and dedication can do it, which is what you said in your first post.

Of course this is all hypothetical, because those of us who are teachers are not in it for the money, and we get rich in a far more important way than Mike Wallace or those like him will ever dream of.[/quote:3g8h83ox]

To your point #1:
There are several charter schools on Ohio that have done that. I've worked for some of them. They raise a lot of money from investors, grants (I believe) and public support. Also, the "$10 million" was used because that's what the poster I replied to said. Not every NFL player makes $10 million per year. "$10 million" is a placeholder for making wealth at the upper-echelon of your field. I believe that's what NFL players are, in terms of football, as a whole. They make more money than footbool players in other leagues.

To be honest, I don't know the exact figures of every one of those charter schools. However, there were a few reported in the news as having their founders/CEOs run off with millions of dollars (illegally, of course). Those specific situations were troubling, and are outside the scope of this conversation. However, it underscores that there are people making wealth in education. It was disturbing to see dishonest people undermine those initiatives. But I'm sure we all know there are malicious people in every field of endeavor looking to take advantage of others. (Okay, I'm getting off topic... Just hated to see that happen, in my community.)

To your point #2:
Anyone CAN do it. But not everyone WILL do it. And the exact levels of success will be varied. There are those in the NFL getting contracts like Big Ben. And there are those making league minimum. I don't think many semi-pro football players would scoff at both the opportunity and the pay offered by league minimum. Some people will sacrifice to get higher degrees/certifications to make more money, in their field. Some won't. Some will start their own projects/companies. Some won't. I'll take it further... Some will do these things. MOST won't. And after one or two failures, most of the rest will give up.

Regarding your closing statement:
Yes, it's all hypothetical. This is just a discussion board. And I think it's great that you reap the metaphysical rewards that you do. That is a very important part of anything that any of us do... To gain a sense of satisfaction from what we do that goes beyond financial compensation. I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that 57,000 people won't pay teachers, but will pay sports organizations. That's both true, and sad. As a society, we value seats at a stadium to the tune of hundreds of dollars for some seats, but scoff at taxes going up $20/person (or even less!) to fund schools (which includes funding the educators that teach our children). But that's another topic, for another time. (Watercooler, maybe?)

Finally:
My main point is not based in "$10 million." I was trying to make a point based on the trail of conversation, previous to saying that. I believe we all have the opportunity to earn in the upper echelon within our fields, if we so desire. Mike Wallace desires that, and I'm considering that his current behavior stems from him seeking a method to achieve that (relative to his level and other high-performing NFL receivers).[/quote:3g8h83ox]

I said in my orginal post that I wish my boss would offer me $10 million for doing something I loved. You clearly responded that anyone with dedication can do that.

Regarding Ohio Charter Schools - they didn't make that money because they were dedicated to education. They made that money because they were good fundraisers - period. Most of those for-profit charter schools are run by corporations who are truly in it for the money. It's the teachers who make the school educationally successful - not the founder.[/quote:3g8h83ox]

Um, yeah... and NFL players know they can't make their money playing sem-pro. Lol!

Yup... agree to disagree.

 

No joke.

I hope Mike Wallace signs and runs for trophy #7. And I hope he finds a way to get a deal both he and the Steelers can be happy with.

 

It is further proof of how much Mike Wallace's holdout is hurting us all, to the point of distraction.

Are you reading this Mike? Are you? DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE MIKE???

 

Lol!

 

DISCOMBOBULATED?
aww shucks some one get me a teacher or better yet
a foootbal?

 

I have created an epic thread.