"Mike Tomlin will get this thing fixed."

I feel the same and also have concerns, I will also take a wait and see, but I don't feel good about it nor have the confidence in him. Just see way too many issues here that are not getting better, until I see it happen, I just don 't feel good about. Unfortunately this may take a year or two before the Rooney's do something about it.

 

I have to laugh. There are a lot of people that have the 'wait and see' approach. The reality is, we all will be for a long time because Tomlin could miss the playoffs for the next 5 years and the Rooneys would only start discussing whether he's working out or not. His 2 SB appearances will give him an unbelievably long leash with the Rooneys. So we all have nothing but the 'wait and see' approach. Good or Bad, Pittsburgh is similar to the Chicago Cubs in the sense that they will sell out win or lose and fans from all around the country will go see them wherever they play. That takes the pressure off the ownership to produce a winner every year. I know there is a Pittsburgh standard that the Rooneys strive for but they don't suffer financially if the Steelers don't win so perhaps they aren't quick to make the necessary changes to win due to that. Just a theory. Forgive me for growing up in the 80s when the Steelers never won and had a million bad QBs.

 

I still think as injured as lefty was , Charlie could have completed a pass. my goodness we kept him because he was a vet. he's been in the NFL since the stone age when they used a rock as the football. lefty couldn't throw the ball because he was injured. we were not asking Charlie to put in and execute an entire game plan at that point just move the chains.

 

Just curious, Noll wasn't competitive in the 80s so why was calling for his firing stupidity? Should people have just respected what he did in the 70s and allowed him to continue not being successful? Not trying to argue or be disrespectful but Noll was one of the greatest coaches ever and obviously done in the 80s. Should the fans just sit on their hands and wait for the legend retire? Kinda reminds me of Bowden and Paterno where fans had to deal with a lot of lean years at the end because the legendary coach didn't realize when to hang it up. Is that really stupidity or lack of respect?

 

it's sometimes hard to think with our heads instead of our hearts on some occasions.

we are in a semi rebuild everytime we lose another SB vet off this team, it's not going to overnight become a plug and win situation every year. it's a little different if we have a team full of good starting vets and plug in a rookie here or there. we have 19 new players on this roster this year.

our money situation is strapping us, so that takes a little out of the coaches hands. we don't get to start with a clean slate every year to rebuild like chaz started with.

 

I remember the end of the Noll era well. It was a sad day for Steeler nation when the Emperor hung it up. I loved that guy and consider him the greatest HC in Steeler history and among the all-time greats. He deserves to be on the Mt. Rushmore of coaching. But...honestly it was time for him to go. I think he'd lost some enthusiasm for coaching and his players just weren't responding to him the way they once did. And when you've accomplished what he accomplished it's easy to maybe get a little complacent. There came a day when it was time for Cowher to move on. It happens to all of the greats and the not so greats. The time will come for Tomlin. He may not coach as long as Noll and Cowher and then again he may. The hard part for many coaches and owners is knowing when it's time. Some wear out their welcomes while others are given up on too soon. Sometimes it takes a new coaching philosophy to get a team out of a rut. So far we've been fortunate as Steeler fans. Cowher was the perfect successor to Noll. Tomlin was the perfect successor to Cowher, and (fill in the blank) will be the perfect successor to Tomlin. (we hope)

 

Well said dude!!

 

Yea, they lost to Denver, a la Tebow. Are you kidding? They were not prepared as usual. Talk about being beaten by a 3rd stringer?? How do you coach against that? It was like the Fugitive and Dr Kimble. Let see, it was the one armed man. Only with Tebow, he didn't even have one arm, yet they somehow managed to rise to the occasion and overcome adversity. On the other hand, Tomlin was seen sucking his thumb on the sidelines.

rutan

 

Maybe, just maybe it might have something to do with race. There I said it. Not saying it is totally true, but I believe there is an element there.

As for impressive, imagine being given a SB caliber team and then running it into the ground in just a few years. We should have beaten the Pack, but again, the team was really not prepared well. Injuries are part of the game. Other teams deal with them and the Steelers are no different, they just seem to blame the losses more on injuries than other teams.

Fact of the matter is that Tomlin inherited a very good team. He did nothing to build on it. They won one SB against a much weaker foe but the skin of their teeth due to a couple of incredible individual efforts. Then lost the other as the slide continued.

So, if Tomlin is so great, why is the team still trying to fix an offensive line problem, a running back problem and a DB problem not to mention a horrible special teams. None of these has gotten any better under his watch. Certainly a good coach would have made some improvements, instead the Steelers are going backwards.

rutan

 

God help us... Tomlin is a mirror image of Obama. He can screw up royally and he is never to blame. Sound familiar? He is not a bad coach. It is always injuries, player development, mistakes, the weather, short week, full moon, you name it. Just like Obama, Tomlim will throw out a few pithy remarks and all the press will ohh and ahh. Meanwhile nothing gets done and it is business as usual. Sound familiar?

Just like Obama, I can only hope Tomlin is not around for another 3 years....unleash hell my eye.

rutan

 

Except for fillings. Did you know that fillings are the governments way of hiding silver??? I heard it on a pirate radio show. It HAS to be true. However, that show lasted only a few days and was then sold to a Mexican interest.

 

You could make the argument that Cowher first went to the super bowl with Nolls players

 

Don't want to hear about injuries.
Remember Packer-Steeler Super Bowl?

Packers had 16 players on injured reserve at the end of the season.
No team has ever endured so many injuries and won a Super Bowl.

I want wins now.

No excuses, just results.

 

You'll have to ask TTF if I'm serious.

 

That game was lost because of Ziggy Hoods inability to play, and yes, I put the blame on him squarely. The reason was we had no choice but to sell out on the run because all Denver could really do on offense was run and every running play designed by every team that faced the Steelers from the 2nd half of the season was designed to run at Ziggy Hoods side, they used a pulling guard and a RB to take out the LBer. while 1 guy held off Ziggy easily enough that runs to his side we averaging over 5 yards per play. Injuries and lack of depth meant they had nobody capable of replacing him so DL moved the safeties up to compensate and play man to man with the CBs since Tebow wasn't close to accurate. The guy completed 10 passes for 316 yards, 31.6 yards per completion, that is a sick number and you can't coach out of that because numbers like that are a freakish occurance, they put a game plane in that our best CB could not handle, no depth in the secondary. I stopped defending Tomlin because there are some things that have not been addressed but most of the problems have to do with cap issues, we can't sign any decent FA and we have missed badly with the draft, Ziggy Hood has done much, Decastro hurt in preseason and is only now playing and isn't looking great, Bell was drafted as he didn't have the mileage Lacy had but he got hurt before preseason, this team is snake bit with injuries to the point that there aren't any coaches that could get out of this. My biggest problem with MT is the ST problems that we get year after year, that is a problem that he hasn't been able to fix but he isn't to blame for every single thing.

 

I can't find it either!