Mike Tomlin looks like a genius for starting Russell Wilson

What a wild (and factually inaccurate claim) If you are only talking about Ben's final season in 2021, then yes. We are getting a very similar year out of Russ to what we got from Ben in 2020. Statistically they are almost exactly the same. Same QBR, YPG, TD%, INT %, TD/INT ratio, Comp %, etc. Its almost exactly the same. Russ has an edge in QB Rating, but everything else is very close.

2012-2018 Ben vastly out-performed what we've gotten from Russ this year, and its not even close. 2019 was the elbow injury week 2 so that season was a wash. Russ has been good, but this is a pretty bad take... and there isn't anything to back it up either.

Russ > 2021 Ben
Russ = 2020 Ben
Russ <<<<<<<< 2012-2019 Ben

 

This year,Wilson is much better that Ben was in 2020.....Ben could no longer throw deep.Wilson is among the best at throwing deep in the NFL.Wilson has 8.4 yards per pass attempts this year vs a very weak 6.3 YPA for Ben.The difference is massive.Ben was always in the 7.0 or 8.0 in his first 15 years but it was no longer the case in his final 2 years

 

Sorry, but Ben was either average or poor in playoffs after 2011.

 

Yes, the deep ball has been good, but our offense was just different back then. We were a short pass, move the chains offense vs. hit the deep ball or don't offense. I believe it has more to do with offensive scheme than anything. Even in a limited capacity Ben gave us really similar production to Wilson. There are a lot of parallels to those seasons too as they were/are both defensive driven teams that just needed their aging QB to be "good enough" to win. The only difference is that defensive unit got super banged up during the COVID crazy scheduling at the end of the year and our defense this year has remained mostly healthy (knock on wood).

It's not a ridiculous argument that 2024 Russ is better than 2020 Ben, but even if he is, it isn't by much (if any at all). Russ is clearly better than 2021 Ben was. The 2011-2018 years is definitely a ridiculous argument, Ben was significantly better than 2024 Russ in that span.

 

I think we lose some, not all of these games to Giants, Jets, Raiders, Commanders with Ben of '14-'21. Since 2014.... Steelers blew games to bottom feeders and the inability of the offense to convert 3rd downs in the 4th quarter were major culprits in these losses. It's wasn't ALL on Ben....but he was the QB and leader. This would always destroy any chance at playoff seeding Steelers had against the Patriots when they were winning all of the games against bottom feeders except for Dolphins at Miami.

I'm sorry... but I'm still snake-bitten by all of these bottom feeder losses over the years. Yes, Tomlin is to blame... but so is Roethlisberger and Cam Heyward and defense for not getting stops at crucial times.

 

I tried saying that the MVP of last year ....Lamar Jackson(who had the number 1 defense), and the guy who got benched last year ...Russell Wilson( who had the 27th defense) .....had the exact same amount of overall tds, and turnovers.....yet people laughed at me.

 

Yeah 5 tds, and 1 int. That's average. LoL. LoL

 

Given how Russell Wilson is going to likely be signed by the Steelers (length of contract TBD), do you see the team going into the 2025 Draft looking for a QB?! I personally didn't (still somewhat dont) at the time Tomlin made the Switch. However, I now see that it could be impossible to keep both Wilson and Fields here. I doubt Fields wants to sit again for a year and wait; doubly so if someone else gives him an opportunity.

 

I could see a Drew Allar of Jalon Milro, a player who really needs to sit for a year or two before he gets a chance to start. But not til the 4th or later.

 

Ben had been good in the first 3 month of 2020 but he collapse in the last month with some awful game in Buffalo and against a very weak Bengals team...It was sign to come for 2021 because his arm was no longer the same and he could not move....The defense had adjusted to the short passing game and he could not throw deep to keep the opposing defense honest...Of course he was not the only problem for our offense,they had many other issue like the OC,o-line and running game but he was too limited at that point too

This is also true we need to see how Wilson will end the season and yes Ben was great in 2011 to 2018 and before that!

 

Ben played good vs Denver in 2015, that scrub RB Touissaint cost us the same game by fumbling.

 

Personally, I'd want Garrett Nussmeier; QB from LSU. Wicked arm talent and NFL Bloodlines but needs to have a redshirt season. Again, as @Blast Furnace stated, I am hopeful that there is enough cap to get both Russell and Justin back for I'd rather have the team focus on other areas in both the 2025 FA along with the 2025 Draft. Should Fields elect to go elsewhere?! Best of luck to him and wishing him all the best the same.


Dunno if you follow me enough but I have been on record in stating that the 2025 QB Class is.... not very good. Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders are, more or less, what 2025 has for NFL Teams. Jalen Milroe is another but he is far more athlete at this point in time than anything else. As far as my thoughts on Carson Beck, Quinn Ewers and Drew Allar?! Beck is a high floor/low ceiling player, Ewers is one of the most gunslinging happy QBs I have ever scouted with little to no regard to where the ball is going and Drew Allar is everything people loved about Big Ben coming out plus more to offer but also everything people hated about Big Ben during his early years in the league times three to four.


Now, 2026?! That is a draft worth getting excited about finding "the guy". Unless all options are exhausted during the 2025 NFL Draft, look towards 2026 to find him.

 

I think it’s safe to say after watching Russ come in this year Fields will never be anything more than a backup/gadget QB.

 

The steelers had such a depleted team in that game and Denver had a super bowl caliber defense in 2015 too....In 2014 the injury of Bell was such a killer too with nobody to replace him at this position

 

I still would like him if I were you. Granted, not the ceiling of someone like Drew Allar but Garrett is a much safer bet. He just needs the right team and right mentor (hint hint). If anything, his overall style of play reminds me a bit of Russell Wilson.


Having Russell teach Garrett how to properly play the position with Tom Arth (presumably) coaching him up?! Garrett could be something should all go well.

 

I mentioned that in an earlier post. Roethlisberger played well vs Denver in '15 playoffs.... much better than the Tebow game in '11 and he was not 100% for either game AND without AB and Bell in '15.

 

Thank goodness Russell Wilson got healthy. Wasn't a genius decision. It was a no brainer. But the media had to make it a drama show as they do as well as some who wanted Fields and thought that he was the future. His shortcomings proved them wrong. Wilson was brought here to start.

Fields is a back up, a gimmick gadget type player. Some team will take a flyer on him starting possibly.

Wilson gets a 3 year deal and they draft a QB in 26 to sit and learn.

 

To be honest,I was not sure Wilson had some left in the tank.I am happy he is almost as good that in his Seattle days but it was far to being a lock that it would been the case.The decision would been bad if Wilson would been washed

 

STATS are for LOSERS. let's stop this , always running to a STAT.

Ben and the TEAM stunk the 2nd half of his career, in the playoffs.