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Mike Golic Jr.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. CANTON STEEL

    CANTON STEEL Well-Known Member

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    cool story
     
  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    I believe they have started remodeling and we are in that process.

    as for pouncey, sometimes you give up a stand your ground center for mobility. as a former coach for so many years I can see some of the struggles for him this year. at least early. not just him either.

    the new system requires some time to make the calls. he has to unlearn what he has gotten used to doing as second nature. it also depends on what type of defense he's going against and the play called and if they audible to something else. he's learning too. there is a lot that goes on before every snap. he also has a lot more responsibility to be on the move and learn this technique which is different this year as opposed to what he's learned since arriving here.

    add the youth that is the o-line this year and we can wonder why there are some struggles going on. this not only hinders the o-line but changes what the TE's do and what the RB's do in certain situations against certain defensive alignments and where teams are sending blitzers. all this has to come together at once for things to look like a well oiled machine that fans want to see.

    believe me they are working hard to get this together. why in college do you see so many juniors and seniors playing over freshmen and sophomores? repetition, and knowledge is the answer. pouncey hasn't had the same guard next to him since he got here. just because a new guy gets plugged in doesn't mean things will flow just the same as before. we as fans would like to think that and expect it, but it takes time.

    don't think pouncey isn't still learning too. as I keep saying this year, baby steps.

    :cool:
     
  3. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, according to his cell mate, Bubba, he's still a great TE. :eek:

    I can't believe I just did that. :facepalm:
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Are you reading his posts Thorns? He's totally being disparaging, how many times has he put people down with his "koolaid" comments? Or rose colored glasses? Or any number of passive aggressive snide remarks he has made. And there is a difference between discussing concerns and just being a negative nancy like he is being. Also, you may not like it, but the fact is, this franchise is the most successful for a reason, thats why people throw the 6 SB's around, doesn't mean they are perfect, just pretty good at what they do.

    Yeah, lets revamped a proven model because of an 8-8 season. What were we the year before? Oh yeah, 12-4. The year before that? Oh yeah, got to the SB. I thank God everyday that fans don't run this franchise.
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    last year and the year before or whatever year in the past mean absolutely nothing. different players and a different direction for both the offense and defense. as the team goes into a partial rebuild, even the coaching staff has to learn new tactics. every year brings a whole new set of problems to overcome. team wide. :cool:
     
  6. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Let's throw the whole 6 super bowls out. How about the fact that if it involves winning the Steelers sit at the top of the mountain in EVERY category since the merger. You name a category that has to do with winning and at the top of that list will be the Steelers. Heck they are the only team to win at least 5 games every season since the merger so I have 100% faith in the Rooneys who have been doing this since the 1890s when some of them played on the early pro club teams.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yes but my point was that an 8-8 season doesn't mean you scrap what has been working. Steelers know how to build teams.
     
  8. thorn058

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    I'm not saying to forget about it I'm saying that simply throwing out there as if it proves a point has no purpose in a discussion unless you are talking about winning SBs. I'll give you an example Steelhurtin. You have been shouting at the rain about the hitting going on in training camp. Now you have maintained your cool and the discussion has been a good one but imagine how fustrating it would be if some threw the whole well they have won 6 SBs I think they know what they are doing at you. It is true but it has no bearing on the discussion on how physical camp is this season.

    The same thing has happened in draft threads or player discussion like it somehow validates a position. If we are discussing Landry jones and that response gets thrown out I would have to challenge it since the Steelers have been more miss than hit on Qbs so they maynot know what they are doing for specific areas.
     
  9. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    I see what you arevsaying my point was more of trust in the rooneys and the steelers way because its a proven system.
     
  10. Lizard72

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    Umm, not to be the spoiler, but this thread is so ....... :offtopic:
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactly. No one is going to win the SB every year but there is a reason they have been to 8 SB's and won 6. People with weak constitutions panic and want to scrap what works. Stability is one of the keys to success in life, in any line of work. Take a look at teams that change coaches like they change their underwear, how successful are they? Uh huh.
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    I agree.
     
  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    at least there are no teams going commando that i'm aware of. nor do I want to know if they are.:???:

    7-8 years is not a real reach in coach turnover if it's not working. most are given 4-5 years to show improvement. I think cowher lucked out missing the SB in 94 ( that dreaded loss to the chargers) since he did make it in 95. if he wouldn't have with that team, he may very well have been gone and the 2005 SB may not have happened under him. :cool:
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I was just stating an example of stability or lack of stability in the case of teams that flirt with going commando :eek: We give our coaches a chance, we don't can them after 2 seasons. Another example of stability is sticking to a model, such as building through the draft, that's their MO and for the most part it works for them, 2008 not withstanding. The Steelers have a direction and stick to it, they aren't the Jets who run around like a chicken with it's head cut off, you don't know what that teams MO is from one year to the next.
     
  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    AR2 doesn't remind me of an owner that will let things he doesn't like go on for to long.

    BA for instance.

    now rookies seeing increased playing time earlier.

    wants the ball run better.

    I tend to think he's going to be a little different with free agency too down the line.

    we have already started seeing some difference under him then we did under dan.

    I don't think it will be drastic changes away from the steelers blueprint, but not near the same as the past. you have to change to stay up to date today, or you will be left behind at some point. AR2 has been through the system even as a scout, so I trust he'll do what's needed when it's needed.:cool:
     
  16. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    How possibly can you evaluate a player with out game experience? I will be puzzled if he is with the Steelers.
     
  17. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    a good Catholic boy, that's why is still here
     
  18. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :roflmao:that was good.
     
  19. Steelcop

    Steelcop Well-Known Member

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    Me too but I hate how the league is changing and if it doesn't stop football will fade like all the other sports have. We have the right owners the right players and if the injury bug didn't hit we would have won our division last year.
     
  20. 12to88

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    I see it both ways, and anyone who pays attention to my posts knows I am the most schizophrenic poster on here. I am rah-rah-rah one thread, and Debbie Downer the next. I am philosophical one thread, and a hot mess the next.

    The Steelers do this to me. Always have.

    This year's team is very difficult to project, and this preseason is not helping matters any. It's leading to a lot of uneasiness--and we see it on this board. Do I think the Steelers can win 11+ games and win the AFCN? Yes. Do I think it's possible that the Steelers end up an abysmal 5-11 or 6-10? Yes.

    What's driving me crazy isn't the losing of games. Every team loses games. Every franchise has its share of 9-7 and 8-8 seasons. But I can say this, as a fan of close the 40 years; it's THE WAY this team loses games that is frustrating: by beating themselves with bone-headed mistakes. It hasn't been corrected under Tomlin, and if this preseason is any indication, it WON'T be corrected, either.
     
  21. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    :this!:
     
  22. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    That's awesome. :applaud:
     
  23. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the practice squad ...too small,not strong enough yet,and very raw...if I remember the article correctly
     
  24. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    PS for him and then the slow fade away.
     
  25. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I thought this was a Mike Golic thread?
     

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