Mike Adams Attackers Found Not Guilty

In your OP you didn't use the term "deadly force". Again every single word is very very important. Your are correct in the permissible use of "deadly force" for self-defense among different states.It also has to be proven was it the only option or even what was done, was it a "deadly force" action. Sticking a pocket knife into a large man's abdomen may not be but sticking that same pocket knife into his throat may be. Rule of Law and it's definition and application is the reason we have so many lawyers and why they make so much money.

As a side note, you can use self-defense to protect your property. Now deadly force is different. Here in NC, if I'm in my house and a stranger enters it uninvited and I feel threatened I can use deadly force. If I'm sitting in my car, and a man opens my closed door and attacks me I can shoot him < use of deadly force> even if he doesn't have a weapon.

Know your laws in your state and if you're traveling you might want to inquire about that states laws, especially concerning conceal & carry laws & use of force.

Bottom line this was a bad situation, adams should never have even been there. I'm glad it didn't end up being worse than it was and hopefully he has learned something. I'm not blaming him for getting stabbed or justifying those 3 guys actions, just saying that if Adams had been doing what he was supposed to be doing this would have never happened. As a fan of the Steelers and helping pay his salary I now must question whether his draft selection was a good choice and even if moving forward with him is in the best interest of the team.


Cajun-

 

Their 1st OTA was May 19, 20 & 21 of that year. He was stabbed May 31. The thing that bothers me is Mike lied, changed his story several times. It went from an innocent man looking for his keys to his truck after dinner and being attacked, carjacked and attempted homicide to an aggressive drunk fighting 3 punks........ DURING football season, during the OTAs when most of the new years game plays are installed.

Remember, he was a projected 1st rd OT that fell off everyone's board because of his off the field issue's and substance abuse. He made a personal plea to the Steelers, they drafted him in the 2nd rd and after his rookie season and during the start of his 2nd season he pulls this crap. If he wants to drink, in excess, and get drunk, then stay home. During the season he should be focusing on becoming better, not partying.

Cajun-

 

Juries today are not screened properly..on the subpoena app. questionnaire you should have to present some sort of proof your favorite NFL team. If any of the potential juries are not a Steeler fan they should be waived for duty in this case. Seriously jury boxes needs to be obolished and used for firewood!

 

Adams days as a steeler may be numbered

 

At this rate, Adams is lucky he wasnt charged with DUI on top of everything else. It doesn't matter what time of year (during season or off season) someone decides to put themselves in a bad situation, ultimately he was at or near, if not more than half in the bag with a vehicle at a bad time of night. You can't question any of that.

i know, been there myself... Paid the price for DUI and learned a lesson and lucky as hell I wasn't stabbed in the process as I was out and about acting like a dumb ass and leaving a Taco Bell.

 

Just be thankful that the Taco Bell didn't kill you.

Bottom line is the judicial system is a complete corrupted joke in the U.S.

There was a guy in my city who went out to pick up a 6 pack and was jumped by 6 juvenile thugs of the opposite race, beaten to within one microsecond of death before a neighbor came to the rescue. Laid him up in the hospital for weeks. Returned home and never left his premises again. Died 11 months later at the age of 46. The judge handed down the last sentence this week. All 6 punks were sentenced to 2 years probation and a book report. You read that right. They were sentenced to write a BOOK REPORT! That could be a harsh sentence though cause I doubt any of them even know how to read.

If criminals know that they will never be severely punished then crime will always continue.

 

I'm not taking sides. all I remember at the time were the articles about how hard the rest of the line was working and working out together at the time the stabbing happened. at 4 am drunk and hungry, where is that dedication he's giving to his team, his team mates and the rooney's that he promised. just sayin.

 

Wait a minute so yinz want one guy making the decision of guilty or innocent? That seems very risky and very corruptible.

 

I'm not saying Adams did anything wrong, but if 12 different people heard all the evidence and don't believe there was enough for a finding of guilty, then who are we to say otherwise. I've worked in the system long enough to know things are rarely black and white. I have no idea what happened that night, but it's obviously something more than just 3 guys stabbing him. Something led to a finding of not-guilty

 

The jury can only make a ruling based on the evidence presented. I've personally been stabbed in the neck by an inmate. It was on camera and even he wasn't convicted of attempted murder. He only got aggravated. These things are never easy

 

This. It's a bit difficult to make a judgement on the case without knowing what went on in the courtroom. Whether it was a technicality that got them off, or whether it was something more complex than the stories reported... impossible to say at this point.

 

Which is why defendants opt for a jury trial rather than just a judge.

 

I agree, the Taco Bell was 50 yards from the club I was in and again acting a fool. My point was, that if you put yourself in certain situations... You live or don't with the results.

As far as the rest of it, I agree completely. In California there is no punishment no fear no consequence for breaking the law or in its simplest form acting like a dummy.

it entitles people to roll the dice without sweating serious time. A jury of your peers, is good and bad in an way, as I try to have a say so in my daily life as to just who my peers are. I'm sure everyone else does the same on whatever level and that's where the waters muddy up a bit... Depending on the type of character you have.

i guess there isn't a perfect system as there are so many people messed up or opinionated or naive etc... So what do you do?

i guess the best option is to not put yourself in a situation where your fate might end up in the hands of others altogether... But even then, sometimes things of a bad nature knock on your own front door prompting action... And there's a whole other slew of ridiculous stories that arise from that arena.

Crazy times

 

Lawyers did their job.

He stabbed himself.

 

Now that's just a bad ass dude right there! Extend him now... The toughest S.O.B. On the roster... Do it NOW!!! Hahahaha

 

He's worked on his hand foot eye coordination.

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