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Mendenhall O/U

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by DDinAZsteel1, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. DDinAZsteel1

    DDinAZsteel1 Well-Known Member

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    Not trying to be negative because God knows we desperately need his help for the sake of a running game, but what would you say is the over/under on number of touches Mendy has before we see the first spin move?? I'd say 2 :)
     
  2. SteelYourPoints

    SteelYourPoints Well-Known Member

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    I'll go 4 :shrug:
     
  3. takenoprisoners1

    takenoprisoners1 Well-Known Member

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    For betting purposes, I think you've gotta say 1.5. I'll go with THAT....But heck, I'll take seeing a Mendy spin move if it means he's healthy enough to run....
     
  4. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I might be missing something, but I don't see what's negative about a running back performing a spin move?
     
  5. ScottChab

    ScottChab Well-Known Member

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    No momentum when he hits the line of scrimmage.
     
  6. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Alternatively - good way to dodge or shed a tackle in open play. Like Redman does, pretty much every time he's touched.

    I'm being pedantic, obviously, but it just seems odd to be semi-mocking a running back for doing what is a fundamental running back move.
     
  7. ScottChab

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    I wonder how many negative plays that fundamental running back move results in.
     
  8. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    Redman spins a lot as well but no buddy gives him ****
     
  9. DDinAZsteel1

    DDinAZsteel1 Well-Known Member

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    I guess I should have said dancing behind the line/spin move but then the answer would be 0 across the board. Spin move isn't as bad as stutter stepping behind the line, but it is not necessary nearly every time he touches the ball. Additionally, on top of reducing your momentum significnatly upon contact with whichever defender is pursuing, you completely open your self up to a blind hit and strip from another defender.

    Still happy to have him back to hopefully spark some life into the line/run game
     
  10. HugeSnack

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    What's the over/under for how many carries Mendenhall gets before there are nonsensical complaints about his style of play? Let's set it at 0. I'll take the under. Oh look, I win. Lousy fumbling ballerina!
     
  11. Blast Furnace

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    Fumbalaya! sargie fumblina wilkerson fumbles the ball
     
  12. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    You dont rush for 13tds and i think 4 more in the playoffs and shy from contact. He looks to gain the absolute most out of every carry. We are seeing what a straight pounder does behind the weak ass line we have. I think we are on pace for the absolute worst rushing average in our history at least top three. Mendy has averaged 1000+ yards a year per season over his starting career in a passing offense and behind a weak oline. Think about when ben is out who carries the team. Mendies best games came when ben wasnt there. That just tells me he is very capable and very misused or should i say underused.
     
  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    mendy gets in the endzone, bottom line. so does wallace. already wallace leads brown 4 to 1. redman only leads mendy 1-0 after 3 games. TD's win games not yards and style points. :cool:
     
  14. HugeSnack

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    Still having not seen Mendenhall this year, I don't know how he'll play. And even though he says his knee is good now, he's also said that he doesn't have the same speed and cutting that he used to (yet). I think it's supposed to be a full year before that returns, which would be January. I'll take a healthy Redman over a healthy Mendenhall when we need two yards or less and the defense knows we're running. That's about it, frankly. And I don't dislike Mendenhall in that scenario either, I just think Redman is elite when it comes to short yardage stuff. The rest of the time I'll take Mendenhall over any other back on our roster, and it's not even close.
     
  15. SteelYourPoints

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    Mendenhall can spin all he wants to as long as he can perform. I was only semi-mocking him because he spins a lot. Nothing wrong with it, but it does open up nicknames like Spindenhall :shrug:
     
  16. HugeSnack

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    I'll go 2.5.
     
  17. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    as far as feature backs mendenhall is the guy. i also think dwyer is the next best feature back. i like redman. he is a short yardage stud. he's a good complimentary back. i hate the fact that dwyer will have to sit. he can't stay healthy though. rainey and batch have been under used behind this line. we are going to struggle until something is done with the blocking, it doesn't matter right now who's in there. i don't think we will see some resurgence of the run game anytime soon. our guards and tackles are big and slow. :cool:
     
  18. Iowasteeljim

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    Maybe I am looking at this differently because I played running back once upon a time. Yes, they did have face masks but they were the simple two bar face mask. Anyhow, How much momentum do you think is created between where the running back starts and where he meets the line. I think you would be suprised at how little is created. In addition, the backs that can create the greater momentum in that short of space, usually, are the smaller backs that have to do something other than take guys head on. Larger backs that "run people over" take more time to generate the speed needed to do so. Finally, how often do you watch a running back get the ball, put his head down and run, directly, into the line of scrimmage? Take that a step further if you are convinced that they do so...how often do they do that and, then, break through the line to go on for yardage? A good running back will attempt to go to the hole, with their head up, and, if that hole is closed, will scan for a new one. Having said all that I guess I just don't understand what some people's expectations are. When you find that perfect back that has the beak-away speed, power to run anyone in their path over and do it every play, please, let me know!
     
  19. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i remember you, they called you hop along casualty. you glory boys :roll: :) :cool:
     
  20. ScottChab

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    The speed they generate could be the difference between geeting hit for a loss or being able to push the pile or fall forward for a short gain.
     
  21. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    So if they do that every time and never move in a remotely "dancey" or "spinny" way, at least we'll be good for three of the ten yeards over three downs.

    The point would be more that one RB moving forward against the combined weight of a defensive lineman/linebacker and the offensive lineman he's pushing backwards is not great odds, unless they have serious momentum, or are Jerome Bettis.
     
  22. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    don't ever use those words again talking about our running backs. :stogie: :doh: :lolol: :cool:
     
  23. rukus4ever

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    Mendenhall is the feature back... even coming off of injury... and an ACL at that... because he is the best overall back on the team.

    It's absolutely hilarious how much complaining there is about his dancing. Mendenhall was getting 1000 yards a season behind a crappy O-Line... Because he was "dancing" AROUND all the defenders he had to snatch the hand-off away from. No other back on our roster appears able to do that. Not even Redman.

    Fix the O-Line and Mendy will be damn-near unstoppable.

    Mendy FTW.

    'Nuff said. :herewego:
     
  24. Iowasteeljim

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    Mac, they called me that and quite a few other names that would get me kicked off this message board! :D
     
  25. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    LOL :lolol: it's sad but we had those two bar facemasks too. not everyone, but alot of them. i remember the two bars with the single one down from the top. we thought that was the most inovative thing since sliced bread. i remember qb's wearing the single bar like kickers wear now. :facepalm: LOL. :cool:
     

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