melvin ingram wants out

LoL.
That was way well timed.

 

Bingo

 

I knew you'd go there basically because I have no feelings about this one way or the other. You have said in two responses now that something was told to her and she went with it. That it was wrong information that she reported means either she was lazy and didn't confirm it with at least one credible source or she is bad at the job in which I'm pretty sure that's day one stuff in journalism 101 confirm your sources. As someone who worked in that field you seem to be ok with mediocre reporting so I'll defer to your judgement on that.

I will state for the record I think both Brooke Pryor and Aditi have a very unenviable job of trying to make a career in sports journalism in an area dominated by grumpy old men. They had to take over from fixtures on the ESPN and NFL coverage for more than 2 decades. Guys like Werder, Hoge, Jaws, Clayton, Palantonio, Chris Mortensen. That is some tough guys to take over for so more power to them for charting that territory and as I said the beat guys in Pittsburgh aren't all huggable teddy bears. So yeah mistakes are made.

Anyway I don't have a dog in this race so just adding to the discussion.

Edit: I'd still like to know who she sees on the Cards that the Steelers would be interested in.

 

I believe your statement against her was far stronger than you make it out to be now. In the very post to which I am responding, you went from taking a wait and see approach to dismissing her as either a liar, incompetent or someone who lacks integrity. I don't know how you can think that statement is fair and measured.

By your logic, every report out there by every member of the media can be dismissed because they have all made errors at some point in their careers. Making one mistake does not make a reporter a liar, incompetent, or lacking in integrity. That you want to make that blanket statement absolutely proves me right in this discussion.

That you don't seem think the pressure to be first existed before social media is just more evidence that you don't know this topic nearly as well as I do. Of course, social media has intensified that pressure. That had begun before I left the business. It doesn't justify her mistake, but it also doesn't mean that every other report she makes should be dismissed.

At what point did I defend her not verifying that report? I didn't. I acknowledged it was an error.

You also don't seem to be able to acknowledge that there is a difference between an error in reporting and making things up. I can absolutely believe a reporter rushed a story and that led to a mistake. Hell, sometimes they happen without being rushed. That a reporter simply made something up is a much tougher sell. It happens, but it is far rarer than you seem to think.

You are hesitant to believe what you don't want to believe and you are using that one mistake, which she acknowledged, as an excuse. Thank you for providing me with so much evidence on my side of the argument.

 

Rumors or not....would anyone consider DeSean Jackson for Ingram. They could release Ray Ray and let DeSean be used in kickoff and Punt Returns also?? Personally I would hope they would keep Ingram to spell Watt or Highsmith in high volume games and as extra insurance incase one or the other went down, I'm just not a fan of him being used in pass coverage.

 

Brings me back to James Harrison, what was promised?
Really I have to believe the Steelers would have never promised Ingram
more playing time when they have a budding superstar in Highsmith on a rookie contract.
Just doesn't make sense.

 

The Steelers should be finding ways to get guys like him on the field, guys like Spillane off, but here we are. Supposedly a good locker room guy, hopefully this is just

I'd rather re-coup a draft pick. Try to get one for Ebron, too.

 

No player in the NFL is promised playing time. When brought in, there may be a conversation on hypotheticals, but the best players will be on the field. You have to earn playing time. Ingram wasn’t promised. Harrison wasn’t promised.

 

A budding superstar? Yeah OK
This guy has been underwhelming at best

 

If the ESPN stats/analysis guy is correct, Highsmith is better than most EDGE players for passing and rushing "win rate".
(However that is calculated. But it does mean that "underwhelming" is debatable.)

 

Most of his positive stats came in the Seattle game. Now is that because of the opposing player he was going against or was it because he’s finally getting healthy and a look at things to come. I’m hoping it’s the latter. But in my opinion he certainly hasn’t done anything to consider him a budding superstar.

 

Jackson is 35, and has been injured often in recent years.

 

If they can't get a desperate team to give up a 4th for Ingram, then I wouldn't trade him.

 

I think he retired too

Edit: nope I was wrong with the Rams. I could swear I saw a former Eagle WR retired

 

I’m so disappointed in this this. We should not be losing Ingram as he fits right in and became a part of the culture in Pitt. Do reporters plant seeds that grow into problems that weren’t there n the first place. TMZ sports?

Another player that wants out of Pittsburgh? There was a time this was non existent.

 

I could be wrong, but I bet you get a reply to this

The reply will be twisted

And he will declare victory

I saw this movie before

 

I have never ever Understood why someone no matter what... can't say they are wrong, or could maybe wrong.

 

Actually, I think players or their agents plant seeds to the media expressing their discontent, knowing that it will get out, without the player having to directly face the camera looking bad or whiny.

Is it really that hard to believe that Ingram is unhappy? He took a low ball offer in a low cap year. His playing time is dropping, so his chance of leveraging his 2021 season into a bigger 2022 contract gets smaller every day. He’d obviously be happy to go elsewhere where he can play. He’s 31 and a vet, not a 23yr old noobie, he knows how the game works with the media, and knows how to play it.

 

Yes, but has he really said he wants out, or is that all conjecture based on the Chiefs making an inquiry? If it's the former, I hope he doesn't become a distraction. If it's the latter, then someone is taking creative license with a story about a possible trade.

 

Of course not. That’s the whole point. He wants out, but if it doesn’t happen he can pretend he always loved it here. Make the best of it, cash his post trade deadline paychecks. But he wants out. Tomlin was asked about it, said he talked to Ingram, but said he keep their conversation private. Fair enough. But I doubt the conversation was “How are the wife and kids?”.