Melvin Ingram thinks he's better than Alex Highsmith

Can you provide examples of this strategy working in practical application so that we might celebrate your rightness? Again you are probably right but let's check our work to be thorough.

 

How is firing a guy rewarding bad behavior?

 

Yet the Chiefs and those following the chiefs say otherwise. But yea the 32nd worst defense didn't need him....that

This is well documented. Google it.

I guess you will need to ask the agent or the player to get that answer. No one wanted to give him a long term contract for obvious reasons. So he took a 1 year deal with the team he thought would give him the best shot at getting a long term deal the following season. Why he thought that probably has something to do with why he was pissed and wanted out after realizing he wasn't given a chance to earn the starting job. Sound familiar ? James Harrison can relate.

 

I watch the Chiefs quite a bit because Hill is on my fantasy team, I live smack dab in the middle of the country and well the Chiefs are on a lot. The fan base is happy because adding Ingram had one tangible and noticeable effect which has been pointed out time and time again. It allowed Jones to move back inside to a natural position and he, not Ingram is creating havoc. The Chiefs uptick in defensive play is also due to the return of Mathieu who is a spark generator for the secondary. Ingram is still getting supporting role snaps with them and is not an every down Linebacker. The Thursday night game should have provided all the proof needed of the smoke and mirrors of the rise in the Chiefs defense. They had a 13 to nothing lead with a solid goal line stand and then surrendered 14 points in less time than it's taken me to type this(I'm a slow hunt and peck typer) if not for some Steeler level brain farts by the Chargers D in OT the Chiefs lose that game because their defense couldn't stop the Chargers until the redzone.

 

When you know that cut/fired person is gonna get picked up by the league juggernaut and almost win it all.

 

I have yet to hear what they were supposed to do. He was already being a *****. Faking an injury. Complaining to the media. Does anyone really think giving him a stern talking to was going to alleviate the issue?

 

Lol. The team put it out there that he was hurt, not Ingram. How do you know he was constantly asking for a trade? How do you know it wasn’t just once? You don’t. Your argument relies on fiction.

 

James Washington comes to mind. He reportedly wanted out. The Steelers chose not to trade him. There have been no reports of locker room issues and he played a big role in the team's late-game rally against the Vikings.

The other evidence is all negative, meaning the current strategy of caving when players try to force their way out does not work. LeGarrette Blount, in particular, made the front office look like fools. He was already in touch with the Patriots, at least through the players. The Steelers got nothing in a return and the Patriots got the help at running back that they desperately needed that season. Blount ran for 148 yards and three touchdowns in a playoff victory over the Colts that season. The Steelers went one-and-done in large part because Bell got hurt and they had no viable option behind him.

 

So that's a no? Let's not stay Steeler specific please cast a broad net so we can see the strategy for the marvel it is. We don't want to support unsubstantiated theories we want to give the full credit this deserves.

 

Cool story bro

 

I think Ingram and his agent leaked that to the media about him saying he's better than Highsmith, it would be hard to bring him back around the team, also I saw on twitter Ingram had refused to practice before the trade deadline.

 

Or the Steelers offered him more money, that's why he probably signed with them, Ingram is a fool if he thought he was just going to show and be handed a starting job.

 

Are we talking about Harrison or Ingram?

 

Nothing story about it, it's reality. If you're fine with the Steelers being the farm team for more successful ones, that's you I guess.

 

In a couple of weeks the Chiefs will play a team with arguably the worst OL in the league, us. If he has another one on his 1 tackle, zero sack performance can we put this whole thing behind us?

 

Ingram.

Harrison I feel was released by the front office as a courtesy. He wasn’t going to get playing time here and Colbert respected his wishes.

 

So you are just going to ignore the evidence I gave and pretend it didn't exist. Got it.

You want a player who wanted out but ended up staying? How about Aaron Rodgers? Sure, they made a promise to accommodate him if he wanted out after the season, but Ingram was already going to have that.

Broadening it doesn't make sense. I don't know of another team with a history of caving to players trying to force their way out with bad behavior the way the Steelers have done going back to Blount. I guess you are okay with these guys making fools of the front office and the Steelers weakening their roster while helping their opponents.

 

If it was on Twitter, it must be true.

 

Ignore what the only evidence you gave is James Washington which was an unconfirmed report that he asked for a trade when it became evident that he had moved down the depth chart and looked like he wasn't in the Steelers long term plans. After the report he behaved in a way that credited the type of person he is, neither confirming or denying the report and going about his business the way he always has even when his QB threw him under the bus to cover up his own deficiencies on throwing a deep sideline throw. I wish every player in black and gold carried themselves like James Washington.

The Blount example is a strange one since by your own admission proves a negative and how letting the player go to another team can hurt the Steelers. Blount and his agent didn't do due diligence on the contract offered by the Steelers to learn the Tomlin is not a running back by committee type coach nor does he favor situational only guys such as goalline running backs. Blount had already run afoul of the league's drug policy and provided a less than stellar role model for Bell. He became disgruntled about his lack of use and walked out on the team during the middle of the game. There really is only one response to that and it is releasing him from the team. Where he goes and what he does shouldn't be part of that equation. Since the Patriots were content to let him go in free agency and hadn't tried to lock up a solid performer for them should tell us that this wasn't an I'm going to act up so that I can demand a trade back to NE. If memory serves it was injuries and ineffective running game that led to the Patriots resigning him.

Over the last 20 years there have been more examples of players acting out and forcing their release and or trade in the league than teams keeping the disruption in house forcing them to wait out the season and releasing them when they can't catch on with another team. The Giants and Browns have done it with the same player. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the Rams will keep OBJ happy just long enough to make a playoff run and then they too will look to part ways with him before his attitude can infect Cupp.

So if I missed your evidence please point it out again where you are right that forcing a disgruntled player to stay on the team and not releasing him has proven to be the right move for either the Steelers or another team.

 

A lot depends on the player's attitude. Or any employee for that matter.

Even if a person isn't happy, wants out, or is on their way out, if they work hard and maintain professionalism then that's one thing.

On the other hand, if they're destructive or poisonous then you have no choice but to get rid of them. That's not rewarding bad behavior, that's cutting out a cancer.

 

It was from a radio host in Pittsburgh .

 

I'm sure James Washington wanted out earlier this season, he knew his opportunities would be limited, but he remained professional and didn't say he's better than the other receivers ahead of him.

 

Still, HighSmith to me, has been disappointing. So many on this team have been, frankly, underachieving. I’m looking for much more out of him. How you go barely noticed at times playing opposite Watt is beyond me. I mean, he makes it easier for you to get in on the action and be a stud too. Case in point, Bud Dupree.

 

Some fans on here were saying he's going to be better than Dupree .