gays game has gotten better but wasn't as bad as most make it out either. no i don't buy it was because of lakes coaching that made the difference either. gay played in the SB for us as a rookie when rookies didn't play here. that alone shows he had some skills. i liken his growth to deshea townsends career. good 3rd options for years and part time starters for stretches and with years of service turned into decent starters later in their careers. were or are either shut down corners? no, but have enough skill to not make mistakes, tackle well and give you solid 60 minutes every week. players do get better dean. especially guys that had some talent to start with. gay does. it come with being a veteran and seeing different things over the years and learning from mistakes. even before when he did make some mistakes, he still made a lot more positive plays then he did mistakes. by far. sure we need revamped in the secondary, but guys like gay are invaluable until the new guys are ready. gay is the only vet presence we have as a corner.