Less than 100 yards rushing again??

The O-Line SUCKS, for real. We beat the Jets so we are suppose to be happy? I don't think so. One time in the game, Redman got hit so hard from an unblocked player in the back field as soon as he got the ball. Makes no sense at all. If I were him, in the huddle I would have called the O-Linemen some sorry S.O.B.'s for letting me get hit like that. Ben should also be giving them hell. I tell you what, if the Jets could have made some of those tackles against Ben, Redman, and Dwyer, we would have lost that game too.

If the line doesn't step up its game, it will be a long season because the defense sure isn't helping out much. Like I have stated very loudly recently, I have serious question about this team. I know we won the game against the Jets but, we didn't look good early, especially on defense. If it wasn't for Clarks play, it would have been a little closer for sure. I don't know what is up with the run defense, they just don't look good. I saw Big Casey being pushed all over the place. Their were so many little things that didn't look good and so many poor performances from some individuals.

Kiesel did apsolutly nothing!

 

If we run every play we be dead last in TOP. The lines struggling right now, how about letting the guys we have play together for a little bit, let them gel, you know Thats one of the problems, the same line never plays for more then 5 minutes together.[/quote:2s69sr2l]


i just hate the fact that we are wasting alot of very good skill people waiting for the line to get better. it's not gotten better with starks,foster,gilbert playing so far. these guys played together all of last year and with pouncey until later in the year. it's not like they are all brand new playing together.

 

I never paid a great deal of attention to how ineffective the oline was but I will take your word for it. The one play I did see a running back for the Jets give Gilbert a shoulder tap and he went down quite easily. That kind of surprised me.

Bman

 

Two things Edog. I agree with your assessment on Kiesel. I was wondering where the hell he was yesterday as well. This is two games now where he has been missing in action or maybe more fitting " missing without any action " lol

As for Ben giving it to his Oline. I think at least from what we are seeing in interviews Ben spends alot of time talking about how good of a job his oline is doing. Maybe its partly because if he talks sh**T about them he could make enemies of this Oline. I don tknow

BMan

 

Yeah I am ok with being a lil happy as well. Look its not often we get a chance to see such domination to the point where you feel like its not coming down to the last minute or two minutes. Personally I am get sick and tired of those games where you are sitting on the edge of your seat. The comment about Sanchez not completing a pass in two hours kind of made me laugh and feel secure at the same time lol



Bman

 

I don't know how much of it is coaching. Wasn't this board (old board actually) raving about Sean Kugler and the job he did with the line when he was brought in? I think it falls more on inconsistencies caused by all the injuries.[/quote:3ruxg6lz]

Yeah I don't see how you can pin it on MT. Regardless if the picks work out or not you have to give him credit for addressing the problem by spending high picks in the draft on the line. It's not like he's taking guys late in the draft or project guys to help improve the line. He took respectable guys early in the last few drafts and more than anything i think injuries are whats hurting us. That and not having the same 5 guys together for a lengthy period to gel.

 

I actually was pretty happy with the offense in general. Not spectacular but adequate to at least get our ship righted. The D from what I heard was horrible the first half (which I missed). The second half I liked what I saw from Clark and Woodley and Ike had a couple of good plays (and some really bad ones too). Our DL ....well

 

IT was a good game. Sorry you missed it. Actually I believe they were terrible only the first quarter specifically the 90 yard opening drive. After that Sanchez was pretty much silenced

Bman

 

Gotta create holes for the backs to run between and threw, shoot every time Dwyer or Redman tried to penetrate the line of scrimmage they had to bounce to the outside cause it was clogged up the middle Oline neds to blow of the line quicker just my two scents

 

Good grief has anyone else noticed the size of the 49ers OL? And the DL is just as big if not bigger. Why cant we get that? raying:

 

Couldn't of said it better myself. If we don't shape up we are going to be in trouble with those defensive fronts that just come after the quarterback.

 

with hampton declining we are getting softer at the point of attack , i don't think taamu is the answer we need to find an agressive nose tackle that can create havoc in the backfield , all the rest will follow

 

Agreed, You don't want Ben to get in the position that Cutler has gotten himself into in Chicago.

 

Ben has always given his oline credit. Ben takes most of the blame for the amount of sacks he takes.

i dont thi nk we will ever hear Ben say something bad about his line.

 

There are no holes. There haven't been holes for years. And now I hear people complaining about even Redman dancing too much. Maybe he discovered what Mendy discovered. Everybody yells about the RBs "dancing." It's called "protecting their necks" from the defenders who walk right into the backfield and d*mn-near snatch the handoff, before the RB can get it!

LMAO

 

Basically, on run plays, the O-Line just falls all into one another. That's what it looks like to me. The opposing D-Line is collapsing the holes with the Steelers O-Line. Lol!

It seems like every other time the Steelers run the ball there are O-Linemen falling or being mashed together into a Line-O-Scrimmage Sandwich.

All RBs can do is shake, juke, evade, spin and bounce to the outside.

Unless the O-Line gets it together, by the time they play the Ravens, Ngata, Suggs and Lewis will be licking their chops. LOL

 

shaner, the OP is the same guy who last week started a "Fire Haley" post after 1 game. I log on this morning and see he's now posting about our lack of a 100 yard rushing game. My original post was about our RB's getting the job done by helping control the T.O.P., not the o-line.

I already stated in a response to mac daddyo that i wasn't talking about the o-line. You want to keep insisting that i am. I have no problems with anyone noticing deficiencies and wanting to discuss them, but it IS only week 2 and it WAS a fairly easy (for lack of a better term) win against a team who put up a ton of points the previous week. We have obviously addressed the weak o-line the last few seasons with the additions of Pouncey, Gilbert, Adams, and DeCastro. Now give them time to gel and work out the kinks is all.[/quote:cnerl1z2]

That post about Haley was meant as pure sarcasm, but this one is serious and truthful. You are right about the RBs doing a good job but had the jets made just 10 more tackles we would be 0-2. I doubt that we get into the endzone on a first and goal against any other team in the league with a run, on the 2 yard line Redman broke 5 tackles, from the 2, my God, was anyone blocking? The T.O.P. was done with completed passes over the middle and checkdowns, if you notice our RBs are now celebrating 4 yd runs, that is bad. What else is bad is while the bills got clobbered by the jets, they did so only because they have no defense at all, but on offense they ran the ball all over the jets D. There has also been a lot of discussion around the league that says the jets run D is pretty bad and we can't even get 70 yards on the ground? The o-line is ridiculously bad and when Ben gets a season ending injury we'll see how the RBs are going to do with winning the T.O.P , in fact they may be the first group to rush for negative yardage because there is no way anyone can run behind this o-line, and less than 70 yards per game is horrid.

 

if by the 5th week the oline doesn't improve someone should say something to kugler

 

I don't see any harm in Tomlin saying something to Kugler now. And for that matter, Kugler saying something to each O-lineman. The did make some nice holes, but they had more bad times than good. Can anyone confirm this - it seems as if we run up the middle on just about every play. I have yet to see more than just a sprinkling (like Brown's run) where they take it outside. It seemed to me in the past, our O-line was so bad, that the only way to have success was to run it outside.

I don't think it is wrong to look at your team, whether they be 2-0 or 1-1 and ask, "how can we get better next week?" Should happen after every game. But I read on this thread someone say we haven't done anything about it. Really? Didn't we draft o-line 1&2? Even after DeCastro returns, he and Adams are still rookies. They will need time. Time we don't want to give them, because we want to win now!

 

They tried to run Redman outside a couple times.

 

were they the ones he was taken down for a loss? Darn, I must have had a few too many, for me to forget something like that. Then again, I was posting the time on the clock when Ben snapped the ball for a while just to disprove the folks that harp on it all the time.