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Last losing season for each team

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Aug 11, 2021.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    There are Steeler fans in their teens that have never known a losing season.

     
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  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Bed time

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    Fire Tomlin Immediately

    Rooney’s are only in it for the money

    Colbert can’t draft
     
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  3. Jujubean

    Jujubean Well-Known Member

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    Where’s the last 11 years playoff chart?
     
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  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Bed time

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    Whack
     
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  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    This should make me look in the mirror and figure out why I keep losing my mind nearly every season.

    Fact is though, All the regular season wins in the world aren't worth diddly unless the team brings home the Lombardi.

    3 straight years of one and done in the playoffs gets old. They should be able to do better.
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Really if You think about it . Who cares if You lose the 1st playoff game , or the last if You don't make it 2 the SB.
    Main thing. Make it 2 the Dance. Then anything can happen, and Has.
     
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  7. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    I see where this is going, again.
     
  8. AskQuestionsLater

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    BLAME TOMLIN!!!


    :lolol:
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    People are so weird, can’t just take something at face value and recognize that this is an impressive feat.

    Their playoff record can also suck as of late, doesn’t change what the post is about.

    But I know, TOMLIN ARRGGHHHHHHHH

    :facepalm:
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    I honestly think that, looking at that list, of the 32 teams currently in the NFL, 23 teams would love to have that problem! Glad my team is not one of the 23! Again and, as expected, the entirety of this post is missed on the mere aspect that Playoff Wins = Success alone.


    As I stated before and will again, the Playoffs are a critical aspect of a coaches success. However, to get to the playoffs, said coach has to not only post a winning record but also win the division. The AFC North has been the toughest division since 2007; NFC West now officially closing in behind after a near decade hiatus and the AFC West possibly heating up some. Other divisions pale in comparison during this time period.



    If anything, let us take a look at John Madden. Madden and Tomlin both coached in different eras, different levels of competition no less but both have been to the playoffs 16 times; Madden etching Tomlin by one game via 9-7 vs. 8-8. One of the most important aspects though as to why John Madden is in Canton is his ridiculous winning percentage in the regular season; 76.3%. Tomlin's currently is at 65%; not as great as John Madden's but the core aspect of both has been the same; sustained winning. Yes, John Madden won the AFC West in all but two of his seasons of coaching but his ability to sustain that level of consistency during that span is ridiculous. Fast forward to Tomlin and, while the division crowning of his performance does not match up to Madden's, his consistency to lead his teams to the playoffs are near identical; only 4 times in Tomlin's now 15 years have the Steelers failed to qualify for a Playoff Berth. Now, what is important to note here is the fact that many of Madden's shortcomings in the Playoffs were up against some of the greatest NFL Coaches to ever Coach the game vs. Tomlin's playoff shortcomings in which the results have been poor to just plain unspeakable. That said however, both Tomlin and Madden have one similar trait; sustained consistency. What does this all mean for Tomlin?! Well... what it means is that, while I also do personally would love another Super Bowl Chase with him, the fact that the team is regularly in Playoff Contention is nothing short of impressive.



    For a better example of how impressive this has been, why not look at, again, the likes of McCarthy and Payton?! Both have had near identical or even superior Rosters than the Steelers but have not been as consistent. John Harbaugh had a superior team in 2019 yet could not get it done; barely winning the head to heads against Tomlin the same. If anything, compared to those three, Tomlin has been the most successful despite the numerous deficiencies he has had over the years in comparison to his contemporaries. Now, of course I must also include the "Hooded Shroud" in the room as well here; Tomlin's albatross. However, if one is to take 2020 for mere face value alone, that was quite the big mark on Belichick's resume as the Patriots would end up recording their first losing season since 2000. I will not compare what Belichick's Record is without Brady vs. what Tomlin's is without Big Ben because that is not only unfair to Belichick as Big Ben is still on the roster for the Steelers but also due to the fact that said point is not the biggest takeaway here.



    The biggest takeaway is that the Rooney's have thoroughly learned the harsh realities of sustained mediocrity vs. sustained winning; the NFL's worst winning percentage from 1933 to 1969 to the NFL's Best since the merger to today. That appreciation of what it takes to win a Super Bowl has not gone unnoticed either; three appearances since 2003 and two wins as a result. I would imagine that Art Rooney II would love to hoist the Lombardi again.... but if it were only that easy. Today's NFL is WAY MORE STRUCUTED for parity than it ever was in 2003; doubly so now thanks to a 7th Seeding. This is not all to say that Tomlin has underachieved in any way; doubly so within the past five seasons. However, for all of Tomlin's shortcomings, his successes far outweigh them in a league that truly favors the "Last Man Standing"; parity as we call it.




    In short? Underachievement's or otherwise, Tomlin's tenure here has been one hell of a ride. Should he surpass Marty this season for most non losing seasons and go far into the playoffs? Book him as a First Ballot Lock; no questions asked. That level of sustained consistency is unreal.
     
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  11. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    That and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffee.

    A while back, I teased a Browns fan that the difference between Steeler fans and Browns fans is that for Steeler fans, anything less than a Superbowl is a failed season. The Browns win one playoff game in 26 years and act like they did something.

    Here's the thing. We haven't been to or won one in a very long time. And when we actually get to the playoffs lately, we absolutely STINK!

    Yes, fans of downtrodden teams would trade places with us in a heartbeat. But their bar is LOW. We're Steeler effing Nation! Our standards should be higher. I'm not interested in .500 seasons. I'm not that interested in barely above .500 seasons. And good seasons only matter if we actually do something in the post season. Not one and done, or fart away a game we had no business losing.

    Cheating aside, I'd rather have the Patriots last 20 some odd years, even with a losing season or 2 thrown in the mix. Hell, I'd take half losing seasons with their playoff record!

    I remember a time when Steeler Nation used to mock the likes of Marty Shottenheimer (RIP). Good regular seasons, can't win the big one. Now we celebrate that?!?!?!
     
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  12. Roonatic

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    I felt real bad when the team watches the playoffs.
    When they do make it, that means they beat down Cincy or the Ravens. So i deal with it until Popcorn rides off in his sunset.
     
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  13. Rush2seven

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    And they used that pick on Ben. Says something about his legacy
     
  14. SteelerGlenn

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    I think that about covers it.
     
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  15. SteelerGlenn

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  16. Rollers

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    you are not a dumb individual. You had to know where this post was going to go when you put it up.
     
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  17. steelersrock151

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    Only in the sense that every post, no matter whether positive or negative, eventually turns into a "Bash Tomlin" thread, due to the same people (on the subject of which, has anybody seen SDOT?)
     
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  18. Wardismvp

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    This is for all the people that say the Rooney's have gotten stale,
    They know what they are doing and they will be doing it their way. No matter what
    some of their fan base says. This is an impressive statistic for any professional franchise.
     
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  19. Maddog78

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    Longest streaks of non-losing seasons:

    Tomlin: 14
    Noll: 13
    Cowher: 6

    What did Tomlin and Noll's streaks have in common?

    EDIT: Meant to put Noll initially.
     
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  20. steel machine

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    Can't see them making 20 straight. While the mighty Pirates had 20 straight just in the other direction.
     
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  21. steel machine

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    Ben?
     
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  22. Maddog78

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    Close! A franchise, HOF QB.
     
  23. Ray D

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    That only makes sense if you meant Noll and Tomlin.

    Cowher only had Ben for 3 years. If he had a HOF Franchise QB for most of his career, he'd have at least 2 more rings.
     
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  24. Maddog78

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    Yikes! That was a goof. I meant Noll and Tomlin.

    Editing.
     
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  25. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    What a difference between the Steelers and the second place team the Seahawks. I thought we might be a couple of seasons ahead of some team but I didn't expect an 8 year difference.
    Kids going into their senior year of High School weren't born when the Steelers had their last losing season.
     
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